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Old 08-13-2014, 08:25 AM   #1151 (permalink)
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Well... IMO none of these 4 are **** matches.
Cesaro-Cena - ***3/4
Bryan-Wyatt - ***1/2
Bryan-HHH - ***3/4
Bryan/Batista/Orton - ***1/4
I do agree the first 4 were really great.
Cesaro/Cena > Nakamura/Okada
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Cesaro vs Cena (Raw) and Wyatt vs Bryan (Royal Rumble) ***1/4
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So, a little over the halfway mark and my WWE MOTYs are as follows:

1. Bryan/Wyatt RR ****1/2
2. Shield/Wyatt's EC ****1/2
3. Cena/Cesaro SD! - **** (TV MOTY)
4. Cesaro/Zayn Arrival - ****
5. Orton/Bryan/Batista WMXXX - ****
HM: Cena/Wyatt LMS - ****

I went back and watched these six over the last couple weeks, and yeah, Bryan/Wyatt kill RR. I came away thinking how much it put Wyatt on the map. Instant credibility, and not just for the booking. Take some heat for Cena/Wyatt LMS, but fuck that. Match was pure excitement. The rubber match mixed with so much over-the-top action just played havoc on the adrenaline. Crowd was crazy for it too. A touch slow in the middle, some overbooking at the end (did Harper really need to Superplex an Uso through a table on the outside?) prevent it from cracking the top 5, but I loved it anyway. Also, lolcenawins put people off to it as well - don't give me 'spotfest' when I see ****+ dished out on the regular for Puro matches that consist of little more than two dudes slinging taters at each other.
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I don't rate matches but three stars is the average rating so I don't see a problem with handing out 4 stars for a match that was entertaining. It's the 5-star matches where people will usually have differences of opinion, since that rating is usually reserved for memorable classics.
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So, a little over the halfway mark and my WWE MOTYs are as follows:

1. Bryan/Wyatt RR ****1/2
2. Shield/Wyatt's EC ****1/2
3. Cena/Cesaro SD! - **** (TV MOTY)
4. Cesaro/Zayn Arrival - ****
5. Orton/Bryan/Batista WMXXX - ****
HM: Cena/Wyatt LMS - ****

I went back and watched these six over the last couple weeks, and yeah, Bryan/Wyatt kill RR. I came away thinking how much it put Wyatt on the map. Instant credibility, and not just for the booking. Take some heat for Cena/Wyatt LMS, but fuck that. Match was pure excitement. The rubber match mixed with so much over-the-top action just played havoc on the adrenaline. Crowd was crazy for it too. A touch slow in the middle, some overbooking at the end (did Harper really need to Superplex an Uso through a table on the outside?) prevent it from cracking the top 5, but I loved it anyway. Also, lolcenawins put people off to it as well - don't give me 'spotfest' when I see ****+ dished out on the regular for Puro matches that consist of little more than two dudes slinging taters at each other.
Please send me matches of dudes SLINGING GAWD DAMN TATERS AT EACH OTHER! That sounds like something I absolutely wanna watch.

Casas against Rush sounds like something I should have watched yesterday.Soon enough. Hmmmm...what shall 81st anniversary yield.
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I don't rate matches but three stars is the average rating so I don't see a problem with handing out 4 stars for a match that was entertaining. It's the 5-star matches where people will usually have differences of opinion, since that rating is usually reserved for memorable classics.


Agreed and I've never understood how you break down a match in half or quarter stars. I don't do stars either but *****= Great match that I could watch over and over again. Like Rey/Eddie from Halloween Havoc.
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Please send me matches of dudes SLINGING GAWD DAMN TATERS AT EACH OTHER! That sounds like something I absolutely wanna watch.

Casas against Rush sounds like something I should have watched yesterday.Soon enough. Hmmmm...what shall 81st anniversary yield.
Honma/Shibata
Honma/Ishii (both)
Sato/KHash

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the usual canard is that anybody can do 'spotz', and my usual response is that anybody can hit hard. It's about how it's done, and what it means within the context of a match. I've long held that there are many ways to work a great one, and I think Cena/Wyatt was an example of that (think I gave Honma/Shibata ***3/4 or ****, don't remember off-hand).
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Day 9

Naito vs. Suzuki
***1/2
This was fine. Naito got his leg worked over, but ignored it in his comeback. He also whiffed badly on several strikes, including a key koppo kick. This was a really good night for Suzuki though, so the match ended up being decent.

Styles vs. Anderson
***
This was just there, for me. Almost had a back work story, but not really. Then some spots happened, which were ok ,but there was never a real story here.

Goto vs. Okada
****1/4
I know everyone hates Goto, and usually no one hates him more than I do…but he’s been very good in this tournament. His timing is better, his moveset makes more sense, he sells better, and when he is in there with a quality worker, awesome stuff happens. And this was awesome stuff. It awesome because at first it feels like a normal Okada neckwork match, and then Goto hits Okada with a big lariat to kick off the comeback, and Okada starts selling like hes been knocked loopy. I know Okada’s selling has come in to question, but it was amazing here. He stumbles running the ropes, he falls during strike exchanges when its his turn, and he holds is jaw throughout the match. His jaw selling was absolutely incredibly, and the crowd rallied because Okada looked like he was fighting through being knocked loopy. There were some awesome, surprising counters at the end as well. Crowd was insane for this, buying into every nearfall.

In general I love the chemistry these two have. I gave their title match from February ****1/2 stars, and this was just under that.

Night 10

Shibata vs. Ishii
***1/2
Some really good spots, but mostly just a lamer rehash of last years match. The striking contest was great last year, this year it was just ok. The one counts were dramatic and big last year, this year they are lame. The no-selling wasn’t too problematic last year, this year it was. I did love Shibata putting one arm behind his back because of Ishii’s injury, but then Ishii ended the exchange by using his arm for a suplex, so that kinda wasted a cool visual, for me. Fun, but not amazing.

Night 11

Ishii vs. Nagata
***3/4
Loved this. Nagata wants to prove he can strike with Ishii, but when strikes don’t work, he goes to work on Ishii’s injured arm. This created some awesome drama, with the crowd rallying behind the clearly hurt Ishii. Nagata had an INCREDIBLE counter to the sliding lariat into the Nagata lock. Other than that, just the usual quality from Nagata’s matches. Ishii’s injury actually forces him to wrestle underdog again, which is great.

Okada vs. Suzuki
****1/2
This was AMAZING! Match of the tournament for me, and I’m not even kidding. The arm work by Suzuki was glorious. And the selling….the Selling! Okada sold his arm like death. It was a sight to see. The crowd got way into a long arm submission, and then they were red hot through the finishing stretch. Excellent pace, awesome counters, and the whole match played on all their previous matches. Add in the fact that Okada needed this to make the finals, and everything was there. This was just excellent.
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Tanahashi vs Shinsuke Nakamura
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****1/2

I loved this match so much.It was different than their usual limb work matches which can get repetitive.This match was about the counters and sequence,and there were a lot of great ones.Tanahashi's reverse sling blade was awesome (wish Nakamura sold it better) and Nakamura's dragon screw counter was great too.They really had the crowd in the palm of their hand during the last couple minutes but unfortunately the match ended shortly after.If they had went 5 more minutes I think this would have been their best match.


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Playing some catch up and this lacks any form of true depth, but Naito vs Honma from the final night makes my list. Specific mention b/c two dudes I consider to be top tier best in the world level had themselves (warning, frequent comment overload) a heck of a sprint. If only the finishing stretch was meant to be a killer, this would have been a supremely great match. Still great for what it was. Naito is untouchable this year (oh he's probably my WOTY at this point, I really don't have to think about it. The heat that will follow this is gonna make me laugh. ) & Homna, ffs. The dude feels like he can't do any wrong as long as he just tries. Which he always does. And we always support him for that. I want to shake his hand. A great man.
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