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Old 04-03-2013, 10:17 PM   #291 (permalink)
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One would think that but I guess not! The same idiot who's banned most of the suplexes has banned brainbusters and limits movesets to 10 total moves . It's absolute lunacy to be honest! The Daniel Bryan I see today, whilst a great wrestler, is still nothing compared to the baddass brutalizer he was in ROH, because they removed his best signature moves (mma elbows, face stomps, cattle mutilation, regal plex, dragon plex, etc..)
Never understood the cattle mutilation ban. I hope TNA or some company gets it shit together and really compete with the WWE and not handcuff these amazing talents. Limiting them to only 10 fucking moves. If you had only 10 moves in the WWE just a few years ago you would be a fucking laughing stock. I hope one day Bryan and Punk will just go off for like 30 minutes and use everything they have and really make people take notice of what they have been missing out on all this time.

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Old 04-03-2013, 10:41 PM   #292 (permalink)
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Is... is he... he's not.. really called Sammy Sane now is he?

Really?

Sammy Sane? Sammy Sane? Even for WWE that is fucking pitiful.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:02 PM   #293 (permalink)
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Well, if they ever needs someone to play Sheamus' brother, they have their man.
He's a thin, Irish Seth Rogen.

I hope he debuts in a smark city, with the mask, before unmasking to reveal himself as Bo Dallas.
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Welp, they've already fucking ruined him. If they actually let him be El Generico once called up to the main roster though, I really hope he has his ole theme. Not the same without it.
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They minimise movesets for two reasons

safety

and more importantly, its the style

wwe has always emphasised a smaller moveset for its wrestlers. and whether you like it or not, its track record proves it works
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How do you define that "it works"? I'm not being sarcastic or anything when I say that, I'm just curious as to what you mean.

With Generico, it almost seems like WWE have signed him with the sole intention of utterly ruining him. Even when he inevitably gets released and goes back to the independents the intrigue is kind of gone. His utter commitment to the El Generico sold it so well and now it's just like eh.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:55 AM   #297 (permalink)
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How do you define that "it works"? I'm not being sarcastic or anything when I say that, I'm just curious as to what you mean.

With Generico, it almost seems like WWE have signed him with the sole intention of utterly ruining him. Even when he inevitably gets released and goes back to the independents the intrigue is kind of gone. His utter commitment to the El Generico sold it so well and now it's just like eh.
I saw El Generico without the mask at an ROH Show before the event began. I recognized the beard and asked if that's who he was (I never even bothered to check if he had maskless pictures on the net). Sure thing it was him, didn't ruin the allure to me. El Generico is what I love. The gimmick is great, the way he performs in the ring is fantastic. I just like ti all around.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:57 AM   #298 (permalink)
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How do you define that "it works"? I'm not being sarcastic or anything when I say that, I'm just curious as to what you mean.

With Generico, it almost seems like WWE have signed him with the sole intention of utterly ruining him. Even when he inevitably gets released and goes back to the independents the intrigue is kind of gone. His utter commitment to the El Generico sold it so well and now it's just like eh.
By saying cutting down the moveset "working" he means a fews things. Firstly, that it helps to create familiarity. For example, when you see him wrestle and he does the same 3-4 moves when setting up for the finish of a match it really helps to build up the anticipation and tell the story to the fan that the match is soon to be over. The fans start getting off their feet, holding their breath ready to cheer the win or boo him. Then if you throw a kickout into the mix is where you get the "ohhhh!" from the crowd.

Another thing it does is stops the whole "jack of all trades, master of none" thing that a lot of the indy guys have. They can do 100's of moves but very few of them are ever actually a master of any. Where as when you watch the WWE, somebody like John Cena just needs to learn 5-10 moves which he can repeat over and over again, to the point where he knows exactly what he's doing. How to work the move in the safest way for his body, how to work it the safest way for his opponents body and how to make it look most realistic. This not only adds to the entertainment value but it lengthens the careers of the guys because they're working a much safer style.

Thirdly it stops over-exposure of the moves and helps to tell a nice flowing story through the show. I've recently been watching the National Pro Wrestling Day shows and noticed the amount of finisher style moves that would be hit in each match (because all the guys were really trying to impress) really took away from the whole show because it sort of showed how the moves were pointless because they'd hit good looking moves but kick out from them. In the WWE they cut down on that massively so that each guy only uses one finisher styled move and a few signature moves which are there own. This helps to build up that anticipation through the show because as you get higher up the card, not only do you start to see the bigger stars but you see the more moves, the more kickouts making the higher guys seem that bit more entertaining and impressive.


As far as WWE hiring him to ruin him goes, that's just ludicrous. They obviously see the potential in him as a wrestler but didn't want him under the mask because that would have just made him an over-the-top character from the get-go, which usually fails. That's not to say that he may not fall into the comedy role further on in his WWE career but when it happens more naturally, it seems to work a lot more (Bryan, Santino being prime examples.)
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The complaining in this thread is legendary. We're judging his moveset now after seeing what, one fancam match from him at a house show? When the knowledge is WWE always does this. It isn't a negative nor a positive. It is what it is.
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:00 AM   #300 (permalink)
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I was being facetious when I said they signed him to deliberately ruin him.
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