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Richie Steamboat: Have The Seeds Been Planted For His Debut?

On Raw, Santino was shown talking backstage to HOF Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat only to be confronted by Wade Barrett. This lead to match where Barrett beat Santino in a quick squash. Steamboat got in the ring to check on Santino and Barrett teased attacking Steamboat only to back away smiling.

I didn't think of it at the time, but then I thought "are they trying to debut Richie Steamboat?" Richie is obviously the son of Ricky Steamboat. Talented wrestler who works a lot like his father. If this is the way they are heading, here is how I think it will turn out. Barrett goads Steamboat into trying to wrestle him. Steamboat refuses as his time is over. Barrett continues to goad until Steamboat says no once and for all but promises Barrett an opponent in his place, which turns out to be his son.

Now of course I realize this could lead to nothing. They might have just used Ricky just for the hell of it. But do you think this is the direction WWE is headed?

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Re: Richie Steamboat: Have The Seeds Been Planted For His Debut?

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On Raw, Santino was shown talking backstage to HOF Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat only to be confronted by Wade Barrett. This lead to match where Barrett beat Santino in a quick squash. Steamboat got in the ring to check on Santino and Barrett teased attacking Steamboat only to back away smiling.

I didn't think of it at the time, but then I thought "are they trying to debut Richie Steamboat?" Richie is obviously the son of Ricky Steamboat. Talented wrestler who works a lot like his father. If this is the way they are heading, here is how I think it will turn out. Barrett goads Steamboat into trying to wrestle him. Steamboat refuses as his time is over. Barrett continues to goad until Steamboat says no once and for all but promises Barrett an opponent in his place, which turns out to be his son.

Now of course I realize this could lead to nothing. They might have just used Ricky just for the hell of it. But do you think this is the direction WWE is headed?
This makes sense, and I think it would be a solid way to introduce him to the WWE fans. Nice post.
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Re: Richie Steamboat: Have The Seeds Been Planted For His Debut?

it seems like that this is the case but they would really prove they have their heads up their asses by bringing in Steamboat before Ohno and Wyatt.

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it seems like that this is the case but they would really prove they have their heads up their asses by bringing in Steamboat before Ohno and Wyatt.
No; it would prove that they're not going to bring someone up unless they have a concrete plan for him. That's a good thing, by the way. Remember when we were all complaining about Dean Ambrose? Was it correct to assume that WWE values Brad Maddox over him, just because he debuted first? Of course not. Ambrose is a big part of television already, and is protected like crazy.

Just calm down and let things happen. If you force a guy onto the roster, no one is going to care about him. If you give him something to work with, he'll make a bigger impact.


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This makes sense, and I think it would be a solid way to introduce him to the WWE fans. Nice post.


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it seems like that this is the case but they would really prove they have their heads up their asses by bringing in Steamboat before Ohno and Wyatt.
I'll give ya Wyatt, although I think it would be better suited for an after WM debut to build him up through his unique vignettes. But I'm not upset at all if Richie debuts before Ohno. To an extent, I think Ohno has been overrated since being in NXT. A lot of people come on here and act like he is still Chris Hero. But he's not. They're have been many times where I've been flat out bored w/ him in the ring. A lot of his matches are slow and podding. It's almost like he is struggling to adjust to the WWE style. This isn't the Indys where he gets 30 minutes every match. He needs to be able to his work in five minutes or less when his first starts out. But a lot of his matches have been slow and not that enjoyable. Even if it is only five minutes, he needs to be able to his a few quick moves, entertain the crowd, and be done. And he hasn't done that. I still think he can be a valuable player in the WWE as a mid carder. And you know, he's 33. So even w/ all my criticism, I do think he needs to be on the main roster soon before he gets to old. But (to an extent) he is overrated.

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Re: Richie Steamboat: Have The Seeds Been Planted For His Debut?

from my pov, the faces in FCW are highly underrated. Bo Dallas and Richie Steamboat, are classic faces with mountains of energy and charisma. They probably won't catch on with the forum smarks or the dirt sheet commentators but the fans, kiddies, teenagers, women will freaking love them. Give Bo some time to build up his physique and you'll have a guy the men want to be and women want to be with. Richie comes off to me as very smooth and educated in the ring like his father, and that will end up making guys like him, he's got the looks for the girls, and the heart and spirit for the kiddies. Really as much as I love Bray Wyatt and Ohno and a couple others currently in "nxt" I think the faces are much more needed in the current WWE setting where the only "classic" face they have on the roster gets boos from half of every crowd they see. They've stooped to making miz (who's only saving grace was that he was a dick and played one) a face, so they're clearly desperate as hell. Why not just pull the gun and start working with these young faces? As long as they don't try to propell them into the middle-top of the card right away or even the first couple years..

I always love the idea of using the dad to give the kid a rub especially in the wrestling business. As long as they do it right. Have barrett attack Steamboat, maybe set up a legend vs champion match and have barrett win delivering his absolutely shit poor elbow. Have him pick Ricky up and hit him with another, then pick him up again and hit him with another. mayber earlier on in that night you acknowledge that ricky's kid is sitting in the front row watching the match. He jumps the barrier and hits the ring like a house of fire attacking barrett and stopping him from hitting his father.

Something like that would work, leading into a good feud. Just don't like the idea of it being against the intercontinental champ. Either way it kinda ruins someone. You could have richie end up losing the feud and work it right so that it doesn't matter at all, but wwe writers aren't that smart. Barrett loses and he's jobber status after that because again, wwe writers aren't smart enough to keep him credible after losing to a debuting smaller babyface.





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Re: Richie Steamboat: Have The Seeds Been Planted For His Debut?

Richie still seems to lack a personality of his own IMO. He seems just to be Ricky steamboat Jr

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Something like that would work, leading into a good feud. Just don't like the idea of it being against the intercontinental champ. Either way it kinda ruins someone. You could have richie end up losing the feud and work it right so that it doesn't matter at all, but wwe writers aren't that smart. Barrett loses and he's jobber status after that because again, wwe writers aren't smart enough to keep him credible after losing to a debuting smaller babyface.
That is exactly what I was thinking. They should have done this storyline (assuming this is the direction they are going with Ricky's appearance) BEFORE Barrett became intercontinental champ. It would have given Barrett something to do other than just being "there" wrestling in squash matches. Of course creative isn't THAT creative though since every feud these days are based around a title. It would have been a good way to bring in Richie.. because lets face it, if or when he gets called up, he probably wont have a creative gimmick to get him over. He will need help to get over.

Joe H. has shown that you can't go far with no gimmick while trying to stay out of your fathers shadow.

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it seems like that this is the case but they would really prove they have their heads up their asses by bringing in Steamboat before Ohno and Wyatt.
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No; it would prove that they're not going to bring someone up unless they have a concrete plan for him. That's a good thing, by the way.
Stanford said exactly what I would have said.

When I first saw Steamboat with Santino I just expected a throwaway segment about the Cobra and the Dragon, until Steamboat decided to come to ringside and that's when I began thinking about debuting his son in this way.

It's an absolutely solid way to debut somebody.

I don't want to see Steamboat wrestle, though. In fact, I could watch Steamboat wrestle all day but after his heart problems I'm happy with him abstaining from serious in ring competition.

For me;

Last weeks Raw, I would have had the segment involving Santino, Steamboat and Barret but without steamboat coming to the ring. Use it just to set the seeds.

Next weeks anniversary Raw, Steamboat can be involved with some sort of promo with the Legends which can lead to another confrontation between Barret and Steamboat.

The Raw before the Royal Rumble Santino can win a 10 man Battle Royal with the likes of Slater, Mahal, Epico, Primo, McIntyre, Tensai, Kidd etc to challenge Barret for the IC title at the Rumble, and he says "This time, I will have the Dragon in the Cobras corner!"

Come to the Rumble and Barret defeats Santino easily and teases hitting Steamboat but doesn't. Then, later in the night, Steamboat can be found unconcious backstage with his son and WWE officials around him.

The next night on Raw amp up what's happened and have Barret come out and explain his actions later in the broadcast. Show backstage footage of the veteran Ricky with a blackeye and bruise cheek still looking a bit dazed. Have Barret come to the ring, then before he goes to cut his promo with the "I never touched him," have young Richie come out and attack Barret like Owen Hart did to Shawn michaels at the end of In Your House D-Generation X. Have the camera trained on Barrett and Richie come out of nowhere.

This could lead to The Shield being involved in taking Richie out, or it was Barrett, or whatever, I just think this would be pretty cool way to develop a new character and instantly put him in a feud with the champion. It would be an Intercontinental Championship feud where it doesn't completely revolve around the belt.
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Re: Richie Steamboat: Have The Seeds Been Planted For His Debut?

You would really need to book Richie strongly as the son of Ricky The Dragon Steamboat. Richie would need to take on the Dragon gimmick imo, this would enable his father to be his mentor and be in his corner. I guess he doesn't need to be Richie 'The Dragon' Steamboat. But a link needs to be there.

It's most likely then, given the fact Barrett teased hitting Steamboat Snr, that his debut will be in a segment where he comes out to save his Dad. Then the strong booking would follow. You have to commit though otherwise it's bound to fail.

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