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Old 06-28-2012, 10:29 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Well, week two was a complete waste of time. There was basically nothing worthwhile about that show. Bateman and Curtis didn't even put in much of a performance, and I like both guys. They basically had a "short" match (that should have been in the middle of a show) and got it labelled the main event. At least the Ascension wrestled an actual match for a change. That's the only positive.

Instead of telling the fans who the "major players" are by giving them squash matches, they should have stuck those guys into matches against each other right off the bat. Some guy hardly anyone knows squashing some other guy hardly anyone knows isn't going to leave a lasting impression. Unfortunately, several of the squash victims thus far are better than a lot of the guys they're trying to push.

Also, JR's commentary is awful. The guy strings together words and hopes to hit sentences at this point. Half of the stuff he says is completely nonsensical at this point.
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Instead of telling the fans who the "major players" are by giving them squash matches, they should have stuck those guys into matches against each other right off the bat. Some guy hardly anyone knows squashing some other guy hardly anyone knows isn't going to leave a lasting impression. Unfortunately, several of the squash victims thus far are better than a lot of the guys they're trying to push.
This. Exactly.

If booking doesn't give us a reason to care about the guys, we aren't going to care. Consecutive squash matches was a poor decision that really didn't benefit anyone.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:39 AM   #83 (permalink)
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I laughed when J.R. said NXT performances could mean out the door or to the big penthouse in the sky like going to the big two brands was a death sentence.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:35 AM   #84 (permalink)
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What is with the crowd at these tapings? When they bought their tickets, did they not know that Cena and company wouldn't be there? There are almost NO reactions.

Anyway, it was good to see Rollins this week. Still don't see much in Jinder Mahal or Leo Kruger.

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What is with the crowd at these tapings? When they bought their tickets, did they not know that Cena and company wouldn't be there? There are almost NO reactions.

Anyway, it was good to see Rollins and Cesaro this week. Can't wait to see Steamboat next week.
If I saw Rollins flailing around like a fool on the entrance ramp, I'd be silent too.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:41 AM   #86 (permalink)
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It took two weeks for NXT to completely lose focus. The whole episode was full of squash matches that went nowhere and didn't allow the audience to get used to the new wrestlers. Absolutely no storyline development at all which isn't promising for their third episode. Furthermore, why pull Mahal and Cesaro off Smackdown if they are going to be in NXT matches that last less than two minutes? It's a waste as they can't work the crowd to get them over as heels.
In fairness, they're limited in what they can do since they tape a buttload of stuff in one night. I have no damn clue why they didn't cut a couple of matches for promo segments though. The timings on tonights show were fucked up as hell. Seven matches, nearly all of them squashes and a main event that didn't even go five minutes. That's just poor work really. I'm fine with squashes. Hell, I liked the fact that all of the squashes tonight felt different. Jinder's was boring, Seth's looked like a spotfest, Kruger made Aiden look like a scrub, Steamboat's match didn't even seem like a squash - it was his usual match only shorter and Cesaro dominated his opponent. They were all different matches, which is good. What wasn't good was that there was nothing else. It's great to show who the higher up guys are, but promo segments are needed. They should have aced the Cesaro and Jinder matches to air a couple of promos. It would have provided a buffer between the matches and allowed the guys to establish something, anything about themselves other than "I can beat jobbers".

I hope that they change this once the key players have been established (which they all should be after next week). Squashes are fine to introduce someone, but for anyone who isn't cut from the same cloth as Ryback, poor to do on a regular basis.

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I still think Rollins, Steamboat, and Dallas (from last week's episode) are completely boring as faces. This is a problem when those are likely going to be the top three faces of NXT. They all lack something that engages the audience. And Rollins is really trying way too hard to get over. It'll happen naturally without a weird ring enterance if he's doing his job correctly.
I won't disagree with you (except about Dallas. Guy's shown he can get an audience behind him in FCW). Steamboat has the charisma of a corpse and Rollins is completely fucking terrible.

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Not gonna do a long winded reply since it pretty much comes down to this: I disagree with everything you said except for Bo is a boring face and it's only their second episode.
And? That's no excuse for having a poorly paced, poorly structured show.

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Mahal and Cesaro need to be on NXT, Mahal especially. Wouldn't the entire point of NXT be to get them over?
No, they don't. Mahal is shit, but being on NXT won't change that. All it's doing is taking time up that could be used to help the guys who are going to be on NXT long term to establish themselves. And how is NXT, a show taped in one arena unaired in the USA going to help either man get over anywhere? It won't. Think it through, genius.

For example, if we cut the SD guys' matches (other than the ME) we'd have an extra 4 minutes to play with. In that time we could show a backstage promo of two guys wrestling on next week's show (let's say Steamboat and Kruger). Straight after Steamboat's Kruger could come up and do something like this:

LK: Good match there, kid. Real impressive victory
RS: Thanks Leo...
LK: But next week, you're not going to be wrestling Rick Victor. You're going to be wrestling me.
RS: (smiling) Well, I'm looking forward to it, Leo. May the best man win (presents his hand)
LK: (looks at it with disgust) Do you know what you remind me of? A pet cat I had when I was eight. Worthless thing it was, walked around with its little pink nose in the air as if it owned everything it saw. But then one day that cat saw a lion, and the lion looked at it and stood up. Do you know what the cat did? It ran away and was never the same again because it knew that it was only a cat in a world full of lions. Next week I am going to show you that you're nothing but a small cat who thinks himself king of the lion's den. (LK walks off, end scene)

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Do you really expect the man who just walked down the ramp for the first time to be instantly over?
That depends on the context. I'd expect Bray Wyatt to get a reaction if he debuts next week, for example.
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The problem here is not really the fact that there were squash matches. I'd expect that at this point. It's the length of the squashes that was the issue.

Squash matches that are 5 minutes long on NXT are fine, as the person that wins gets to showcase their talents. But squash matches that are only 2 minutes are counter-productive, really. Looking at the lengths:

- Seth Rollins squash (1 minute, 32 seconds)
- Jinder Mahal vs Jason Jordan (2 minutes, 52 seconds)
- Leo Kruger squash (1 minute, 35 seconds)
- The Usos vs The Ascension (3 minutes, 40 seconds)
- Richie Steamboat squash (4 minutes, 24 seconds)
- Antonio Cesaro squash (1 minute, 45 seconds)
- Johnny Curtis vs Derrick Bateman (3 minutes, 47 seconds)

Also, I can't take Johnny Curtis seriously after his SmackDown gimmick. Ascension look like they're heading upwards, I wonder if they would take a gamble and debut them at Raw 1000? Surely that show will showcase the future as well as the past?

Kruger was alright, but his in-ring posture looked too similar to Damien Sandow for my liking.
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No, they don't. Mahal is shit, but being on NXT won't change that. All it's doing is taking time up that could be used to help the guys who are going to be on NXT long term to establish themselves. And how is NXT, a show taped in one arena unaired in the USA going to help either man get over anywhere? It won't. Think it through, genius.
Worked for Husky Harris. He reinvented himself using "a show taped in one arena" in FCW, which was only shown in Florida.
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Worked for Husky Harris. He reinvented himself using "a show taped in one arena" in FCW, which was only shown in Florida.
...He's over with the crowd in one state. Everyone else, aside from us smarks (who make up a small proportion of the audience) has no fucking clue who he is. If he debuted on Raw tomorrow he'd get crickets. Hell, the vignettes that are airing in NXT (taped in the same state) are airing to ensure he gets a reaction.

Even when NXT did tour the states the guys weren't over. Putting it in Florida made it less relevent for the SD guys, because even less of the audience is going to watch.
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BTW, for anyone who's into Indie wrestling.

Anyone catch Brodie Lee during Bray Wyatt's video package?
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