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Old 08-25-2012, 11:22 PM   #351 (permalink)
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Kassius had a solid match with Carter, and the timing on the finisher was epic, and the crowd loved it. That finish definitely got a solid pop by the small audience there watching. I have been convinced for weeks now that Ohno is the real deal, and his time in NXT is running out because he is going to the main roster in the very near future.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:43 AM   #352 (permalink)
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I have not been impressed by Kassius Ohno, at all.
Mail that to the WWE and hope for a depush then.

And for that guy who called Hero a bad wrestler. Meh. I guess bad wrestlers get to train under Mitsuharu Misawa in one of the most prestigious wrestling dojos in the world and also get to perform in eye popping matches in Tokyo, the wrestling capital of the world. Because, I mean, people who actually know their shit about wrestling want to watch bad wrestlers, right? Go back to busting that fatal nut to the World's Strongest Slam and the Brogue Kick.
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Mail that to the WWE and hope for a depush then.

And for that guy who called Hero a bad wrestler. Meh. I guess bad wrestlers get to train under Mitsuharu Misawa in one of the most prestigious wrestling dojos in the world and also get to perform in eye popping matches in Tokyo, the wrestling capital of the world. Because, I mean, people who actually know their shit about wrestling want to watch bad wrestlers, right? Go back to busting that fatal nut to the World's Strongest Slam and the Brogue Kick.
I'm sure Chris Hero is a fine worker, he just hasn't shown it yet. He also has a bad look and no mic skills to boot.

And indy marks tend to overrate the shit out of their guys anyway. Just because you had an hour Broadway that told no story, had no psychology, and had 7 million rest holds doesn't make you the best worker on the planet.
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I'm sure Chris Hero is a fine worker, he just hasn't shown it yet. He also has a bad look and no mic skills to boot.

And indy marks tend to overrate the shit out of their guys anyway. Just because you had an hour Broadway that told no story, had no psychology, and had 7 million rest holds doesn't make you the best worker on the planet.
I'm not an indy mark. I'm a wrestling mark. And I am sure that you're sure that Chris Hero is "a fine worker", and you're right, he hasn't shown it yet, and I'm not even sure he ever will in the WWE, because there's the WWE style of wrestling and then there's the pure style of wrestling, the real pro wrestling, in which he specializes. I just don't see why people who have absolutely no idea about wrestling (entertainment, maybe) should come in here and call into question the man's ability to wrestle properly, considering some of them are fond of the likes of Cena, Sheamus and The Miz.

Size-wise, I've got no beef with you or anybody else saying he's totally unfit. He's had fitness problems all his life, going from a regular, plain looking guy to obese (early 2000s), then from that to chubby, then from that to the toned Chris Hero (2008), and from then on to what we see today. I know that he's been spending time in Cena's gym lately with all the NXT guys so I haven't lost hopes for him regarding that. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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I'm not an indy mark. I'm a wrestling mark. And I am sure that you're sure that Chris Hero is "a fine worker", and you're right, he hasn't shown it yet, and I'm not even sure he ever will in the WWE, because there's the WWE style of wrestling and then there's the pure style of wrestling, the real pro wrestling, in which he specializes. I just don't see why people who have absolutely no idea about wrestling (entertainment, maybe) should come in here and call into question the man's ability to wrestle properly, considering some of them are fond of the likes of Cena, Sheamus and The Miz.

Size-wise, I've got no beef with you or anybody else saying he's totally unfit. He's had fitness problems all his life, going from a regular, plain looking guy to obese (early 2000s), then from that to chubby, then from that to the toned Chris Hero (2008), and from then on to what we see today. I know that he's been spending time in Cena's gym lately with all the NXT guys so I haven't lost hopes for him regarding that. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Finally someone with some brains around here. I'm tired of being called an "Indy Mark" just because I happen to think that someone outside of the WWE is better than 95% of the roster in terms of mic skills, look, and overall wrestling skills. It also just makes me sick to my stomach when people say Kassius can't wrestle. Fucking amazing since he has trained over 50 professional wrestlers himself. Stop with the bullshit, and get with the program, Hero/Kassius is the future of the WWE, or at least a very bright part of it.
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Finally someone with some brains around here. I'm tired of being called an "Indy Mark" just because I happen to think that someone outside of the WWE is better than 95% of the roster in terms of mic skills, look, and overall wrestling skills. It also just makes me sick to my stomach when people say Kassius can't wrestle. Fucking amazing since he has trained over 50 professional wrestlers himself. Stop with the bullshit, and get with the program, Hero/Kassius is the future of the WWE, or at least a very bright part of it.
Ohno certainly isn't better than 95% of the roster in mic skills and look, and I guess time will tell in terms of workrate. Because he hasn't shown anything yet, quite frankly.
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You may be asking, what's the point? The point is that the second he gets on one of the main shows and the WWE gives him the oppurtunity to show his skills to people like you (90 percent of WWE fans), that's what you are going to see.
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Finally got around to watching this weeks show. I'll just come out and admit it now. NXT is my favorite WWE show to watch these days. I just love everything about it, especially the newness. It just feels like it's bursting with potential and I love that. This was the first time I saw something click with Ohno. I enjoyed his match and his finisher could get over huge if they promote it right. He definitely needs to sort out that gut though. The longer is stays the longer he stays in NXT. I really enjoyed Raquel Diaz and think her gimmick is great. Bags of charisma that one. Rollins/Jinder was a cool way to set up for next week and right now the NXT title is looking more important than the WWE title lol. I think it's great that they're making such a huge deal out of it. Can't wait for this weeks show now.
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Ohno certainly isn't better than 95% of the roster in mic skills and look, and I guess time will tell in terms of workrate. Because he hasn't shown anything yet, quite frankly.
Yeah, that was a ridiculous claim. Ohno's been average in the ring, below average on the mic, and possibly below that in the looks department. He's shown flashes of moving well, so I've already said that his gimmick probably isn't helping his ring work. His gimmick CERTAINLY isn't helping his mic work, because nearly all of his promos have been poor.

Maybe there's some coasting involved.
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Ohno certainly isn't better than 95% of the roster in mic skills and look, and I guess time will tell in terms of workrate. Because he hasn't shown anything yet, quite frankly.
He certainly is, and I would say out of all the members of the WWE talent %5 are actually more entertaining than Ohno. You may not think that, and you are entitled to that opinion. However, Ohno has "it", and right now he is just paying his dues in NXT no different that Punk in ECW, or Bryan on NXT. Ohno is working with lesser talent in terms of experience with wrestling in general. Many of you seem to forget that fact. Those who work well in NXT, or FCW do so only because they have been in those developmental programs their whole WWE careers. Guys like Richie, Bo, and Leo Kruger have never made the main rosters.

Ohno has to lower his "standards" for work rate in NXT, and for those who think otherwise that's fine, but please provide an explanation to that point. His most recent match went over very well with a very green Jake Carter. Kassius' finisher went over well in this most recent match, and my hat is off to Carter who solid it so perfectly. The hard elbow knockout is exactly what he talks about in his promos, so I think he is connecting well within that creative aspect. His biggest problem right now is keeping a sound rhythm to his promos. There at times seem to be awkward pauses in his work on the mic.
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