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Old 11-17-2013, 11:14 AM   #3551 (permalink)
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Actually quite liked Tensai on commentary. Wouldn't mind more of it. Came across quite well imo.


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I don't get this. Because he likes someone he can't acknowledge him being poor?


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I don't like him.
Surely you not liking him makes you equally inable to judge him seeing as you're going in with a negative opinion to start with? (I mean in wrestling which is subjective and diverse as hell you're almost rarely going to not have people you like and dislike so whatever)

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I think Kofi is a good enough worker, that if you had a bad match with him, then you're bad.
So you're saying Kofis only good if he's in there with someone good or better than him? Cause i'd say that would surely make him average at best.


On Bray, he's underwhelming on the main roster as opposed to his NXT stuff but he's not exactly bad. He's worked with shit (Kofi, Miz, Kane) and he's only just now coming into the first real test of his ability. But as for him wrestling as a monster, why does he need to be one when he's currently being flanked by two? He uses his size to his advantage whenever he throws his weight around with the deceptive speed he has. Let guys like Harper get the spotlight they deserve for being awesome monsters.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:12 PM   #3552 (permalink)
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It was easier to just make a non-descript comment following that and move on, Shep.

The "b/c I don't like him" answer being a reason to judge said it all.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:30 PM   #3553 (permalink)
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Actually quite liked Tensai on commentary. Wouldn't mind more of it. Came across quite well imo.




I don't get this. Because he likes someone he can't acknowledge him being poor?




Surely you not liking him makes you equally inable to judge him seeing as you're going in with a negative opinion to start with? (I mean in wrestling which is subjective and diverse as hell you're almost rarely going to not have people you like and dislike so whatever)



So you're saying Kofis only good if he's in there with someone good or better than him? Cause i'd say that would surely make him average at best.


On Bray, he's underwhelming on the main roster as opposed to his NXT stuff but he's not exactly bad. He's worked with shit (Kofi, Miz, Kane) and he's only just now coming into the first real test of his ability. But as for him wrestling as a monster, why does he need to be one when he's currently being flanked by two? He uses his size to his advantage whenever he throws his weight around with the deceptive speed he has. Let guys like Harper get the spotlight they deserve for being awesome monsters.
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'Good' cant carry 'utter shit' in the ring lol. Kofi can put on good matches with average guys, and good matches with good guys. I doubt even Bryan or Cesaro could pull Bray to a good match at this point.

It's because bias goes both ways on the subject. I refuse to even watch anything he does if it doesn't involve Harper. And it seems in the last few weeks just mentioning I dislike Bray has made people irrationally mad without even logically defending him with reasoning as to why he is bad. Take the few mentions of how the gimmick is just 'too smart' that I must just not 'understand' it. For that reason I don't even care to argue it anymore. Same thing happened with Ryback too (albeit the roles switched).

Your last sentence is part of the problem. Why Bray gets the 'big' matches at PPVs over the clearly superior Harper baffles me.
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While I may agree that Harper is superior in-ring, I'm just not getting where you get this Bray is horrible notion. Have you watched the matches? His moves are hard-hitting, he demonstrates surprising speed and agility for a man his size, and has actively been incorporating psychology in attempting to invest the audience. With varying degrees of success. But he's certainly got a shitload more upside than a good percentage of the roster.
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Wyatt is fantastic. Give me good storytelling, character and psychology over technical holds anyday.
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'Good' cant carry 'utter shit' in the ring lol. Kofi can put on good matches with average guys, and good matches with good guys. I doubt even Bryan or Cesaro could pull Bray to a good match at this point.
Damn, you must really hate Bray Wyatt. Wyatt in my opinion is a better worker than Kane for example and his NXT work shows that. Bryan would definitely be able to have a great match with him, as would Punk. Don't know about Cesaro though.

Like Cesaro, I think Kofi is excellent in the ring and can have a great match with pretty much anyone decent. The thing is that Wyatt needs someone who'll make heavy use of psychology and wrestle in a slower, more methodical pace that plays to his strengths, instead of someone like Kofi or Ziggler who'll jump and run all over the place and focus the match on athletic ability.

It should have been obvious by now that Wyatt's biggest strength is his character and wrestlers like that cannot be wrestling normal, formulaic matches like what you'd see on Raw's second hour. Think of Undertaker in the early 90's or even Kane's initial run. Their aura is the main appeal, so they should focus strongly on it. Even though Punk is not the best in-ring performer in WWE, I think he's the one most capable of carrying him to a great match.
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Sasha Banks' attire this week.
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Looks like Kalisto got some new gear

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Sasha Banks' attire this week.
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Definitely fits her. Bayley's does the same.
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Wyatt is fantastic. Give me good storytelling, character and psychology over technical holds anyday.
Show me a match where Bray has displayed any of these qualities.
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