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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
http://www.pwinsider.com/article/67...nfronts-mick-foley-in-wrestlemania-hotel.html

The following video has leaked online, although as to what the purpose is, I can't yet tell you. It features Mick Foley being confronted for what "his generation" did to the wrestling business by WWE developmental talent Dean Ambrose, who had a dark match last night at the Raw taping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZcwPGLqQ9I

A bit of an odd one. Is this legit beef Ambrose has with Foley or worked? If it's the latter then can we read into it that Ambrose will be moving up to the main roster pretty sharpish? Seems a bit too random.

Could Ambrose get onto the main roster and straight into a feud with Foley?

(ps, apologies if thread has already been created, I can't see any threads in the General WWE section due to forum problems)


EDIT: Here is a great recap of the feud so far for those that don't want to read through 20+ pages of us all marking out like little kids. Credit to Beatles123 for this:

Look on the first page.

It started with that vid. Since then, he's been trying to make Foley be exposed as the cause of, as he puts it, "A lost generation" trying to emulate Foley and getting hurt, as well as Dean himself. He had been through countless deathmatches in CZW and injured his body, as well as seeing his friends not survive because of it.

He has posted vids of people injuring themselves doing backyard wrestling and such, as well as posting pica of his scarred body and making it known that he was being told by WWE to go home when he was arriving to debut because of Foley. He feels he's holding him down like HE'S a criminal when Foley is the same thing.

Foley does not want any part of it because Ambrose would not show him respect and not mention his children. in addition to Regal telling Mick to be careful due to his psychological mindgames, Ambrose counters by saying he never did mention them, but Foley IS blinding them to reality. Foley says he can't get into this like Cactus Jack did in 1995 with his "Cane Dewy" promo. not at his age and not with someone he feels can seriously take liberties in the ring. Ambrose mournes the loss of Foley's "Testicular Fortitude" and calls him, in terms he can understand, "The cowardly lion of WWE"

To be continued...
 
#706 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Mmm.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they do this match at No Way Out instead. It's in the shadow of New York City in East Rutherford, NJ.

Looking forward to the next wave of developments.
 
#707 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Very good!

I always find myself coming to this thread first when I log into the site just because I am that highly in to this feud, In fact I am that highly into Dean Ambrose full stop! Brilliant that the feud is still on and it's great that these two got us guessing whether it was on or not, hats off to both guys. If the rumour is true, I can't wait for the upcoming Raw, the week before Over The Limit, it's too soon to get a match then, and personally I don't think they'll meet at No Way Out neither, I think this one will keep playing especially if it's going to go viral on the WWE website too.
 
#709 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

It's possible that that could have something to do with him. Mainly because he said "There is a long cleanup job ahead to get rid of everything foley poisoned." That "cleanup job" could be seen as a "revolution" of sorts I guess.
But we'll have to wait and see what that is actually about. May have nothing to do with Ambrose at all.
 
#711 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

A thread with over 700 replies for this guy? Give me a break. I can see the "Dean Ambrose buried" threads everytime he isn't push to the sky once he is on the main roster. He is good but he is also extremely overrated.
How is he overrated? He hasn't even debuted yet, nobody is saying he should be main eventing the next Wrestlemania. The guy seems to be the greatest find the WWE has had in years, but he can't be overrated until he debuts to see what he can do in the WWE. Otherwise, why do you care if people are anticipating his debut? He seems very interesting for WWE.
 
#713 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Finally picking up again! I'm beyond excited for all of this!
I'm anticipating Ambrose so much that on RAW I saw Big Show make an expression similar to Ambrose while he was talking to Eve and thought that was some foreshadowing for some reason. :lmao:lmao I'm soooo pumped!!!
 
#714 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I'm new to this whole forum thing. So please, kill me if you want for being the newbie. But I've been watching Dean Ambrose for a long time and I can't wait for his debut. The guy has been compared from everyone to Pillman, Piper, and even Heath Ledger from the Dark Knight. He should be a huge star. The main reason I joined this forum was to share prediction for his debut and see what other people thought.

Even though the date is about 2 1/2 months away, I think the best place for his debut would be July 23, 2012. This date is the 1000th episode of Raw. I think such a big event as the 1000th episode of Raw would be a perfect way to debut a huge new star. It would kind of be the start of a new generation. Say Mick Foley shows up on Raw sometime in May/June. He cuts some basic promo about anything, and then suddenly a Dean Ambrose vignette plays on Titantron. The promos would take in a creepy setting, such as a dark alley. The promos would consist of Ambrose talking about how Foley runined a generation, examples of superstars he ruined (Edge), how Foley affected Ambrose, etc. After all of this the promos would end with something like this: "On July 23, A New Generation Begins."

Finally, on the 1000th episode of Raw, Ambrose finally debuts to confront, talk to, and eventually assault Foley. This would lead to match w/ these two down the road. The match could happen at Summerslam. Or, maybe Foley is put on the shelf by Ambrose and then the two have a match at Wrestlemania 29 (if WWE can stretch it out that long).

Yes, I actually do have a life, but I justed wanted to share this.
 
#715 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I'm new to this whole forum thing. So please, kill me if you want for being the newbie. But I've been watching Dean Ambrose for a long time and I can't wait for his debut. The guy has been compared from everyone to Pillman, Piper, and even Heath Ledger from the Dark Knight. He should be a huge star. The main reason I joined this forum was to share prediction for his debut and see what other people thought.

Even though the date is about 2 1/2 months away, I think the best place for his debut would be July 23, 2012. This date is the 1000th episode of Raw. I think such a big event as the 1000th episode of Raw would be a perfect way to debut a huge new star. It would kind of be the start of a new generation. Say Mick Foley shows up on Raw sometime in May/June. He cuts some basic promo about anything, and then suddenly a Dean Ambrose vignette plays on Titantron. The promos would take in a creepy setting, such as a dark alley. The promos would consist of Ambrose talking about how Foley runined a generation, examples of superstars he ruined (Edge), how Foley affected Ambrose, etc. After all of this the promos would end with something like this: "On July 23, A New Generation Begins."

Finally, on the 1000th episode of Raw, Ambrose finally debuts to confront, talk to, and eventually assault Foley. This would lead to match w/ these two down the road. The match could happen at Summerslam. Or, maybe Foley is put on the shelf by Ambrose and then the two have a match at Wrestlemania 29 (if WWE can stretch it out that long).

Yes, I actually do have a life, but I justed wanted to share this.

That is actually a solid idea, but I would prefer for him to interrupt Paul Heyman as he comes out speaking on the behalf of Brock Lesnar. Fans by this time will be extremely tired of hearing Heyman's mouth. I think fans need to be introduced in to the pain tolerance that his character possess, and from there blame Foley for taking the ass beating that he would take from Lesnar for humiliating Paul, and Lesnar. I would love to hear Ambrose talk shit about both men live on Raw.

I would also wouldn't mind him heckling Jericho, and then Jericho blames Punk, and says that it's probably one of Punk's Indy buddies. This helps push the Jericho/Punk feud with Ambrose getting inadvertently involved. He would later fall away from the feud, and start with The Miz. Ambrose vs Miz would easily be one of the better ways to put both men on the map. The Miz is a solid heel, and Ambrose is just solid. In Ambrose' view The Miz is exactly whats wrong with today's wrestling.
 
#718 · (Edited)
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Really fucking hope so. A revolution is rising against authority, so you would think it maybe relates to Ace/people power somehow. It could be a way to push the people power story online as it would then involve the people. But equally being a revolution it could also be Dean. Whether it involves him directly or not, he will still have to be handled by Ace in some way? It's supposed to be a viral campaign though, which ties in to how they have been working this angle so far.

Plus posted a few pages back:
Speaking of Foley, his current online angle with Dean Ambrose is the first of its kind. WWE wants to introduce Ambrose to the WWE audience by means of social media outlets such as YouTube and Twitter. WWE officials are happy with the work of Foley, making many question what is storyline and what is legitimate. Just in case you didn’t realize, everything put out has been storyline.
The sign used on the website flashes a few times in the video, looks like that could become the symbol of whatever it is?
 
#720 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I think it's Dean myself, to be honest. It feels too much like something Ambrose would be hyped of without giving too much away. The question is, if so, how will the play out on WWE programming?

Either way, this could be very epic and an automatic impact for Ambrose or it can wither away like "ItBegins" and Nexus.
 
#724 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

why you guys think this A Revolution is coming thing is for Ambrose?!
it seems like something bigger than a new superstar debut
That only depends on how big they think Ambrose may be. If they see something in him then why not endorse him all over the web (and not the shows which is a big thing too).
 
#723 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

It does, but if they let Dean shoot on some of the things he has done recently then it becomes bigger than any one superstar.

It is a major sticking point, especially considering if you were expecting a revolution the natural target would be people power.
 
#726 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

You know what would be awesome? If Foley came out to pimp a book on RAW or announce to be a guest referee for a main event title match at the upcoming PPV with it being the final RAW till then. All of a sudden, an extended version of the "Revolution" video interrupted him and it ends with a simple black background with white text plainly saying "#thanksmick". That's it. It gives Ambrose his mysterious aura, sells the PPV even more, puts immediate interest and question, sets up the feud, and gets social media (Twitter) on an active spree.

Let the race begin.
 
#728 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

You know what would be awesome? If Foley came out to pimp a book on RAW or announce to be a guest referee for a main event title match at the upcoming PPV with it being the final RAW till then. All of a sudden, an extended version of the "Revolution" video interrupted him and it ends with a simple black background with white text plainly saying "#thanksmick". That's it. It gives Ambrose his mysterious aura, sells the PPV even more, puts immediate interest and question, sets up the feud, and gets social media (Twitter) on an active spree.

Let the race begin.
I can dig it. Its going to be interesting how WWE introduces Dean and builds the hype around him. Throughout this war of words, I've felt that if WWE had to take sides they'd choose Foley. Maybe I'm wrong?

Between Lesnar's legitimacy, and Paul Heyman's reference to the 'E being "image conscious", it makes me wonder where Ambrose stands. I guess there's a difference with Lesnar being legitimately violent (fair) and Foley being absolutely dangerous (too far). I do like this self-aware thing WWE seems to be doing between Punk Lesnar Heyman and Ambrose. Maybe Punk was right, maybe THIS is the reality era?

Foley has a great role to play in the induction of this new era. He'd like nothing more than to smile for the cameras sell a few books and forget about the generation he scarred. The 7 year olds don't think of Mankind falling from HIAC, they think of lovable Saint Mick. Foley is a metaphor for the WWE.

Ahh now its clearer, of course the WWE will side with Foley over Ambrose. They're the same thing, on the same page, both culpable, both criminals, both reformed, neither punished.

So how do you debut a guy with a counter-productive agenda? Leave that to WWE's resident Barney Phife; asleep on the job. The same guy that let Lesnar back in the WWE -- Big Johnny.

So with Johnny's incompetence, I could see #thanksmick working in debuting Dean Ambrose. Its seemingly harmless on the surface, and Mick would know the perfect way to react to it. He knows what #thanksmick means, the casuals don't.

Can't fucking wait for Ambrose to debut
 
#732 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Yeah, Ambrose said Foley ruined a generation, and he's going to start a new one. :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark:
 
#733 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I just read on lordsofpain.net that these Revolution teasers on WWE.com may be apart of Ambrose's introduction to the main roster. Again, MAY is the key word there. But it's nice to know there is a report to go along with our speculation.

I've been thinking about how these Revolution trailers will lead to Ambrose's debut. My idea for the longest time is that he will (or should) debut on the 1000th epside of Raw on July 23rd. With these Revoluion trailers, that idea could actually come true. What better time to start a "Revolution" or a "New Generation" than the 1000th episode of Raw.

I don't know how it would be done on that day (I mean all we have is one 12 second video and a couple of reports), but this is when I see Ambrose's debut happening.
 
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