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Old 05-21-2012, 12:43 AM   #961 (permalink)
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That doesn't mean his debut has to wait until July, that's just ridiculous.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:44 AM   #962 (permalink)
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I say have random people attack Foley each week leading up to Ambrose eventually revealed as the guy who was behind it all at the 1000th Episode. This'll

A) Right off the bat establish his gimmick, as a guy who manipulates others with his brain for his benefit
B) Get him involved against a face that the crowd really loves (Foley) and give him instant heat
C) Create a lasting impression for the fans

Ambrose needs to debut at the 1000th episode special. Is it a bit too long away? Perhaps, but he needs a very strong entrance into the company if WWE wants to make him. What better way to make it, then to do something BIG on the 1000th Episode of a show? The clips that would play over the years would make it even more memorable.

He definitely doesn't needs a typical video montage that plays for 5 weeks leading up to the guy debuting against a lower mid carder who he destroys. I mean, are you seeing what's happening to Lord Tensai? His debut was a total letdown, and the crowd shat all over it. And the result? The crowd still doesn't give two fucks about him.

Video montages only work if an already established star comes back, cause the audience realizes who the guy is and pops loud making him feel larger then life for one second. That's what Ambrose needs. He needs to feel larger then life in his debut to make a real impact.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:46 AM   #963 (permalink)
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Don't even go comparing Dean Ambrose to Lord Tensai. The reason Lord Tensai's run sucked is because he is Albert/A-Train.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:50 AM   #964 (permalink)
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Don't even go comparing Dean Ambrose to Lord Tensai. The reason Lord Tensai's run sucked is because he is Albert/A-Train.
I'm not comparing Tensai to Ambrose. I'm simply saying he's gonna feel like Tensai does to the casuals if they bring him in the exact same manner Tensai was.
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I don't understand this at all. Not one guy has been brought in the same, minus guys that squash like Ryback, Brodus Clay, and Tensai. Clearly Ambrose is in a different type of character than those guys. He cannot make the same kind of debut from his character alone.

No matter when he debuts, once Ambrose picks up that microphone I feel like he'll have the crowd in the palm of his hands. People saying his debut will have to be perfect or at a certain venue or date really are underestimating his character. He needs to debut, period, he can take care of the rest.
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He's comparing the debuts. Besides, Ambrose should not be a guy you just throw in there and wrestle nobodies/lowcarders. It makes his initial impact weak. Like I said, we have too many redebuts and debuts from relatively new guys or unknown guys that the crowd needs to be involved with. Ambrose being added as such devalues him even more. You'll have to be patient but this will benefit him (and you) in the long run.
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Ambrose is not going to fail in the WWE because he didn't get a debut like Kane or Jericho, that's nonsense. Nevermind waiting, we've waited long enough. Throw him out on Raw tonight, have him win a match and cut a pre and post match promo, he'll be fine. We need him. Waiting until the 1000'th Raw or something like that is too much.
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Too much for you because of your selfish needs of wanting Ambrose on TV (which is not a bad thing). Hell, I would like to see Ambrose on my TV too but I would want him on my TV with the right timing that will make him an instant deal upon his impact on WWE than he would with a typical squash match. That shouldn't be the route they take for Ambrose.
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Then don't have him win a squash match, debut him like Del Rio and have him beat a big name off the bat. Let's say he has some altercation with Randy Orton, or something, and Jericho or Del Rio costs Orton the match. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with even, I don't know, having him be the first guy to beat Brodus Clay? Why does he need some OH MY GOD Nexus level debut that we have to wait months for? If they have a plan for him, it's not gonna matter how they debut him, and if they don't have a plan, he's fucked anyway so giving him a big debut that will mean nothing is just wasting time.
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Too much for you because of your selfish needs of wanting Ambrose on TV (which is not a bad thing). Hell, I would like to see Ambrose on my TV too but I would want him on my TV with the right timing that will make him an instant deal upon his impact on WWE than he would with a typical squash match. That shouldn't be the route they take for Ambrose.
He's not a tall huge monster either so squash matches would make no sense. Have him debut with an amazing promo, inject him right into a feud with an established name or a respected legend like Foley. Have him psychologically break someone down, show off his promo skills which are better than Punks.
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