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post #761 of 3754 (permalink) Old 05-14-2012, 04:32 PM
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Wasn't he in Dragon Gate USA? I think the deathmatch stuff is only part of his career. Like Sami Callihan he evolved and out grew deathmatch wrestling.
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I don't get people calling Ambrose a modern day version of Piper. I've made the comparisons before but after looking at their promos, I don't really see that much of a similarity. I say Punk resembles more of Piper than Ambrose. Ambrose is more inclined with the persona of a Loose Cannon like Pillman or a Brooding Loner like Raven.

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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

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I don't get people calling Ambrose a modern day version of Piper. I've made the comparisons before but after looking at their promos, I don't really see that much of a similarity. I say Punk resembles more of Piper than Ambrose. Ambrose is more inclined with the persona of a Loose Cannon like Pillman or a Brooding Loner like Raven.
The comparisons to Piper are valid from an in ring standpoint. The way he sells moves reminds me of Piper and his overall wrestling style feels like a mix of Roddy Piper and Jake Roberts. Plus he kinda looks similar to Piper.

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Dean Ambrose - The Rightful IWC Darling

I've been a part of the IWC for years in the sense that I used the internet as my source for inside news into the wrestling business and inevitably found myself emersed in the opinions of those who live in this corner of the world. The IWC typically looks for certain 'qualities' in their favorites, above anything else workrate and pure wrestling ability instead of what casuals subconsciously look for: the 'it' factor.

The likes of Benoit, Hart, Guerrero, Bryan, Michaels, Jericho, Punk and Malenko are all notable IWC darlings from the last 15 years - short unimposing guys with little-no charisma who aren't marketable in the slightest. None of which became draws but are treated like gods by internet fans. Meanwhile, the likes of Hogan, Cena, Austin, Goldberg, Rock and others are detested by the IWC for their lack of pure wrestling ability, and they go on to be huge stars because they had the size, look, charisma, mic-skills (excluding Goldberg). They were big larger than life guys with larger than life presence and personalities.

The latest IWC darling is Dean Ambrose. This intrigues me as he does no fit the conventional mold for an internet favorite because he IS charismatic, cuts AMAZING promos and is EXTREMELY marketable. Guys like him should be loathed by the IWC for a perceived lack of in-ring talent, yet for some reason the IWC seems to love him. Of course, inevitably he'll be turned on, but right now it is quite strange that he's praised so much.
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

The wrestling skills and his mannerisms are fine, I get that. He wrestles more 80s Piper than anything else but the promos are where people make the comparisons and I don't really see the legit connections with that.

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Re: Dean Ambrose - The Rightful IWC Darling

The IWC love people with "It" factors as well. And don't be so manipulated into thinking the casuals aren't as smart as you think. The internet is slowing catching up to the "casuals" in terms of how social media affects the WWE now.

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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I always thought the comparisons were more to do with wrestling mannerisms etc. too to be honest. Definitely agree on the Raven/Pillman mic work though, second coming of Pillman for sure and considering he was one of my favourites, I'm happy.
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Well, I don't really see the Raven comparisons. Raven is much more subdued and philosophical in nature than Ambrose. SES Punk is far closer to Raven than Ambrose.

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Re: Dean Ambrose - The Rightful IWC Darling

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Re: Dean Ambrose - The Rightful IWC Darling

Yeah a guy that looks like some skinny emo kid is more marketable then the likes of Punk, Hart, Eddie, Jericho etc.

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