The following video has leaked online, although as to what the purpose is, I can't yet tell you. It features Mick Foley being confronted for what "his generation" did to the wrestling business by WWE developmental talent Dean Ambrose, who had a dark match last night at the Raw taping
A bit of an odd one. Is this legit beef Ambrose has with Foley or worked? If it's the latter then can we read into it that Ambrose will be moving up to the main roster pretty sharpish? Seems a bit too random.
Could Ambrose get onto the main roster and straight into a feud with Foley?
(ps, apologies if thread has already been created, I can't see any threads in the General WWE section due to forum problems)
EDIT: Here is a great recap of the feud so far for those that don't want to read through 20+ pages of us all marking out like little kids. Credit to Beatles123 for this:
It started with that vid. Since then, he's been trying to make Foley be exposed as the cause of, as he puts it, "A lost generation" trying to emulate Foley and getting hurt, as well as Dean himself. He had been through countless deathmatches in CZW and injured his body, as well as seeing his friends not survive because of it.
He has posted vids of people injuring themselves doing backyard wrestling and such, as well as posting pica of his scarred body and making it known that he was being told by WWE to go home when he was arriving to debut because of Foley. He feels he's holding him down like HE'S a criminal when Foley is the same thing.
Foley does not want any part of it because Ambrose would not show him respect and not mention his children. in addition to Regal telling Mick to be careful due to his psychological mindgames, Ambrose counters by saying he never did mention them, but Foley IS blinding them to reality. Foley says he can't get into this like Cactus Jack did in 1995 with his "Cane Dewy" promo. not at his age and not with someone he feels can seriously take liberties in the ring. Ambrose mournes the loss of Foley's "Testicular Fortitude" and calls him, in terms he can understand, "The cowardly lion of WWE"
Re: Hey there. Don't watch indies. Just WWE & TNA. Who's Dean Ambrose?
Some people in this topic = "Oh, I watched a match with him and I don't think he was all that."
One promo? Wow, you really invested some time there, mate. I also like how people say "Oh, he has to prove himself in the WWE first before he's anything." as if there's gonna be a huge drop in his talent or something from when he goes from FCW to WWE? Suddenly, in a matter of weeks he loses all his wrestling skills and promo skills and turns into a fat slob?
Some people in this topic = "Oh, I watched a match with him and I don't think he was all that."
One promo? Wow, you really invested some time there, mate. I also like how people say "Oh, he has to prove himself in the WWE first before he's anything." as if there's gonna be a huge drop in his talent or something from when he goes from FCW to WWE? Suddenly, in a matter of weeks he loses all his wrestling skills and promo skills and turns into a fat slob?
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being a great wrestler doesn't involve working for WWE.In fact WWE is 10% wrestling at most.There are many guys in the indies and Japan who can embarrass evey WWE guy in the ring(with little exceptions).
I don't think that today WWE is such a big deal for wrestlers anyway.They usually come for a big paycheck and then become bored and leave.
Re: Hey there. Don't watch indies. Just WWE & TNA. Who's Dean Ambrose?
I hate this saying that he's an indy star and will amount to nothing, when nearly every wrestler in the wwe was at one time an indy wrestler, unless their dad was big in wwe in the 80's is more then likely they came from the indy's.
They're probably cooking up something in through out the weeks we wait. Sort of like what was happening with Brodus. If that's the case, I hope his gimmick isn't a complete overhaul. :argh:
Re: Hey there. Don't watch indies. Just WWE & TNA. Who's Dean Ambrose?
Anyone know why it's taking so long for him to debut? The "confrontation" with Mick Foley created a huge buzz but that was months ago and is all but forgotten, thought they would at least have shown a few vignettes of him by now...
WWE brass had planned for developmental wrestler Dean Ambrose to be a member of the main roster by now as he is listed as a Superstar in the newly released WWE Souvenir Program sold exclusively at live events. He is pictured appearing menacingly in traditional wrestling trunks and billed at 6'4", 225 pounds and hailing from Cincinnati, Ohio. He has competed in numerous non-televised matches for WWE since late last year, but not since June 16.
Seem like some overly-hyped wrestler that hasn’t even make his debut on WWE television yet judging by the comments on this forum. In fact you would think he was performing in WWE for 5 years already after witnessing tons of threads about him almost every other day. Hopefully he debut soon so I can see why everyone love him so much like he is the next Dolph Ziggler which is actually bad.
Honestly, from the look of this thread, he gets more hate than hype. Usually from people who won't take 10 seconds to youtube some matches and promos of his, and when they do they watch some two minute thing and say they "weren't impressed." Honestly, if you wanna know what he's about, youtube is right there. Never ever heard anyone called him the next Dolph Ziggler. I've heard Jake Roberts, Pillman and Foley, but never Ziggler.
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Not sure if he was in ROH but I know him from his EVOLVE days. Had the look but ring work was meh (due to my hatred for the style of indy wrestling) but he's improved a lot since signing with WWE.
Re: Hey there. Don't watch indies. Just WWE & TNA. Who's Dean Ambrose?
Seem like some overly-hyped wrestler that hasn’t even make his debut on WWE television yet judging by the comments on this forum. In fact you would think he was performing in WWE for 5 years already after witnessing tons of threads about him almost every other day. Hopefully he debut soon so I can see why everyone love him so much like he is the next Dolph Ziggler which is actually bad.
Seem like some overly-hyped wrestler that hasn’t even make his debut on WWE television yet judging by the comments on this forum. In fact you would think he was performing in WWE for 5 years already after witnessing tons of threads about him almost every other day. Hopefully he debut soon so I can see why everyone love him so much like he is the next Dolph Ziggler which is actually bad.
Not to be the bearer of bad news but I think Ambrose will have a much, much better future tan that guy in your profile pic. Thank God I was never once on that MVP bandwagon. I'm convinced the IWC just likes marking out for losers. Maybe that explains the Swagger love lately.
Re: Hey there. Don't watch indies. Just WWE & TNA. Who's Dean Ambrose?
From the promo's I've seen he sounds awesome. He's 100% got the mic skills and charisma, haven't seen him in the ring yet though. Lol at the ignorant ones who judged him without watching any of his work. Regal seems very high on him so I can see him coming in within the next two years for sure and when he does he will be a hit.
Re: Hey there. Don't watch indies. Just WWE & TNA. Who's Dean Ambrose?
Wow, I'm quite intrigued by this Ambrose guy and hope he debuts well. But some of you marks are unbelievable. GOAT? You do know what that stands for, right? Greatest Of All Time... ALL TIME. Even people calling Bryan the GOAT makes me lol.
I'm not asking these guys to pull off a Taker/Austin/Rock, let them stay on or near the top for a few years and then we'll talk...
Re: Hey there. Don't watch indies. Just WWE & TNA. Who's Dean Ambrose?
How do you NOT see a unique level of charisma there though? There's only a handful of guys in WWE that can compete with those mic skills and that's massive in this day and age.
Re: Hey there. Don't watch indies. Just WWE & TNA. Who's Dean Ambrose?
Since I'm a super nice guy, I've compiled a bunch of Dean Ambrose videos for those who don't know who he is and are interested, or are sceptics to check him out. None of this is from the indies, all WWE and FCW stuff, cause "Indies don't count." Please try and watch most of them, rather than just one two minute video, or half a match and then forming an opinion on that.
dean ambrose is now on those programs you get at live events so this could be a very close sign that he will be debuting soon. SInce AJ is the GM I could see her bringing up AMbrose to raw on monday ( which is in cincinatti , Dean's hometown). Dean Reminds me of Heel Jericho from 2008-2010 both were psychotic with a bit of piper.
It's really gonna suck if he debuts or they show a vignette on Monday b/c I won't be able to see it live (have to work). It's in his hometown after all. Who knows? If I could plan it, I would start showing vignettes starting Monday and have him debut on the on the Sept. 3 Raw in Chicago for the great (and smarky) crowd.
I'm kind of hoping his first feud is w/ Kane. Kane is a well known star but is also not one of the top guys in the company and is famous for putting others over. Yeah, the matches wouldn't be classics. But w/ their characters, the story would be great.
It's also worth noting that guys like Vader, Race, Rhodes, &c all had legions of worshippers before, during and after their "misuse". Why should it be any different for Ambrose?
The difference is that I can be a fan of Vader before, during and after his WWE run, but it's stupid for me to say that he has changed WWE during his run and that's what Ambrose marks do in this forum. The GOAT, the future, someone who will change the WWE and even this business.
The problem in this forum is not that someone is a Dean Ambrose fan, the problem is that bullshit people wrote where they guarantee that he will be the star of the company.
Who knows, maybe he will have a WWE career like CM Punk but maybe he will end like Low Ki.
Of course the guys like Vader, Race and Rhodes had still fans after their terrible WWE careers, my point was that they never accomplished things in WWE they accomplished in WCW and NWA and that there is no guarantee that you will make it in WWE because you made it somewhere else
I had no clue who Moxley was until his first promo on FCW. I knew Punk, Danielson, Joe, Hero, Claudio, Tyler, all before they were signed with WWE or TNA. ROH is a much more talked about than CZW or Dragon Gate USA, so that's a big reason why.
I don't think Moxley\Ambrose will have such a hard time in WWE because his wrestling style is suited to WWE, and he can't be branded as "King of the Indies" like Punk and Danielson.
I'd say Joe and Fallen Angel totally beat Ambrose in terms of hype but neither have made the move to WWE. While I've always been a MASSIVE Kings of Wrestling mark, I can't say that anyone has been talking about Hero and Claudio like they do of Ambrose. Ambrose has that youtube sensation quality to him, his promos excite people. Guys like Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli had such a rich history in the indies behind them, but I never saw a WWE champion using his day off to wrestle them in a house show, and tell an audience either of those guys where the next big thing. You could say those guys deserve it more, but hey, Moxley/Ambrose has a way of exciting people with his work. And this is coming from a KoW mark.
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