The following video has leaked online, although as to what the purpose is, I can't yet tell you. It features Mick Foley being confronted for what "his generation" did to the wrestling business by WWE developmental talent Dean Ambrose, who had a dark match last night at the Raw taping
A bit of an odd one. Is this legit beef Ambrose has with Foley or worked? If it's the latter then can we read into it that Ambrose will be moving up to the main roster pretty sharpish? Seems a bit too random.
Could Ambrose get onto the main roster and straight into a feud with Foley?
(ps, apologies if thread has already been created, I can't see any threads in the General WWE section due to forum problems)
EDIT: Here is a great recap of the feud so far for those that don't want to read through 20+ pages of us all marking out like little kids. Credit to Beatles123 for this:
It started with that vid. Since then, he's been trying to make Foley be exposed as the cause of, as he puts it, "A lost generation" trying to emulate Foley and getting hurt, as well as Dean himself. He had been through countless deathmatches in CZW and injured his body, as well as seeing his friends not survive because of it.
He has posted vids of people injuring themselves doing backyard wrestling and such, as well as posting pica of his scarred body and making it known that he was being told by WWE to go home when he was arriving to debut because of Foley. He feels he's holding him down like HE'S a criminal when Foley is the same thing.
Foley does not want any part of it because Ambrose would not show him respect and not mention his children. in addition to Regal telling Mick to be careful due to his psychological mindgames, Ambrose counters by saying he never did mention them, but Foley IS blinding them to reality. Foley says he can't get into this like Cactus Jack did in 1995 with his "Cane Dewy" promo. not at his age and not with someone he feels can seriously take liberties in the ring. Ambrose mournes the loss of Foley's "Testicular Fortitude" and calls him, in terms he can understand, "The cowardly lion of WWE"
At this point, I'm anticipating Ambrose's debut as much as I was Tensai's the moment I read that it was going to be A-Train with a new gimmick.
Hopefully, the WWE realizes they need to focus more on the talent they already have (like Rhodes and Ziggler) before taking another gamble on a guy that has yet to do anything significant in his career.
Sure, throw him out there...but the idea that he should cost Cena the championship is ridiculous. A storyline with him, Bryan and AJ...I can see that as probably the biggest thing he should step into, but that's only if the WWE is committed to bring Bryan down a couple of notches and remove him from contention.
Agreed. Anybody who hates a guy because others like him has serious issues. I don't care who it is or whether I like the performer or not, but if you hate/like a performer because of his fans then you're pathetic in the worst way.
People should make their own opinions based on the wrestlers "talents", instead of the fans they obtain.
According to him, you have to be The Rock status to make a debut in the WWE.
In other words, dude's an idiot. You'd THINK it would be nice to see a new wrestler with a unique aspect to debut, but nah, he enjoys the most boring ass people.
Lol, just goes to show you the power of hype. We've been pretty much hyping this guy up for months now, hell i'd even say a whole year, so when he makes his debut it will be all the more special. Wish I could say the same for the general fanbase who won't know who he is. But the guy left a very lasting impression on me from the first promo he cut on his debut in FCW. Hopefully he does the same when he debuts.
Hmmm so Foley being out is a bit of a cock up for what would have been a great storyline. If only they had another icon of extreme wrestling lying around, like, oh I don't know, the leader of ECW, waiting to do nothing after Summerslam.
I'm a card.
Seriously though, it'd work. Except Ambrose would probably come out a face if he went up against Heymen. And Heyman would need somebody to fight in the ring for him.
Just watched The Dark Knight over the weekend. After watching it, I really hope when Ambrose debuts, whether it be next week, next month, or even further; I hopes he debuts w/ a Joker like gimmick. And I'm not talking about the kind of Joker Sting played in TNA. The kind Joker Sting played was just the cartoon version. Just an eccentric prankster. I want to see Ambrose play the Joker from The Dark Knight, a sadistic, psychotic mastermind w/ a sick sense of humor. I think it would be a very unique character where he could some very good rivalries w/ it. Imagine the unique promo he could cut. I wouldn't even mind if he wore the Joker face paint and make up (even though that be a little much).
Yeah would be cool. However one thing I would say, if they do make him like that. He needs an appropriate attire to go with his character. I just don't know if wrestling briefs are the way to go. Maybe have him dress in street fighting clothes or something. Ripped jeans and a t-shirt like he used to dress in the indys sometimes.
The Dean Ambrose gimmick is a crazy and psychotic mastermind w/ sick sense of humor. So in essence, Dean Ambrose and The Joker are one! The only thing missing is the outfit and the make up, which Dean can do without.
wasn't there supposed to be a mick foley appreciation night soon? and debuting in his hometown would be great, but i'm currently at a loss as to when they might debut him, if not next week the next logical time would be right after summerslam. i just wanna see him on tv already fuck. but this cm punk angle will interest me for a while, i want to know what kind of promo he's gonna have next week so it'll make me tune in. but no ambrose will start to wear on me, he needs to debut shortly.
I don't know. I honestly don't know where this is going. RAW 1000 was perfect but they wasted Foley on a Brodus Clay match and they didn't even do anything with him for a angle like Bryan and AJ. Still a supporter of his work but the interest, if he doesn't show up real soon, is going to start to falter.
After watching Raw 1000, I realized it wouldn't have been a great time for him to debut. He would have come out, do something shocking, the crowd would be wondering what was going on and then about 10 minutes later The Undertaker would have come out, and everyone would have forgetten about Ambrose instantly.
Next week or another point in the future will be better b/c the show won't be littered w/ legends.
Good point about debuting in his hometown. I suppose that is a possibility, especially when you couple it to be "Raw 1,001" and the beginning of a "new era" like you say. That could potentially be very interesting, if done well. But somehow I'm not expecting him to appear until after Summerslam (they tend to debut somebody the week after Summerslam, two years ago it was Del Rio) or maybe Chicago on September 3...
I think it's a rotten shame that the feud with Foley, which held so much ridiculous potential, seems to be off. Guess those reports about Foley's posting several months ago being a "work" was off, unless this is the most patient angle the WWE's come up with since God knows when (which, I'm 99.9% sure, it isn't).
He won't. I'm just throwing it out there because it is his hometown and it's Raw 1001, but it'll never happen. That's simply too much faith to put into this sinking ship known as WWE.
I don't recall WWE regularly debuting talent after SummerSlam other than Del Rio and he had 2 to 3 months worth of vignettes anyway. That hasn't happened here.
The feud with Foley being cancelled is shameful. Foley got worked up like a bitch and pulled the plug, embarassing. Lost some respect for him, holding up one of the best prospects in the world. We can't have Ambrose but we have all the embarassments running around with WHC's and MITB briefcases, makes me sick.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the company may have felt the storyline's premise may have been over the heads of too many casuals or taken the attention off the happenings of the main event picture.
How would it be over their heads? If anything, I think it would appeal to casuals even more than regular viewers - hardcore wrestling and the resulting injuries are a bit of a taboo subject in the mainstream media. The storyline was perfect, yes it would have been close to the bone but that's what is needed to really captivate people.
Reports state the storyline was scrapped because Foley was unhappy that Ambrose mentioned his kids or something, which is pretty pathetic if true. I also have a feeling it may be something to do with Linda's senate campaign, which would be even more pathetic.
When has WWE ever put out a press relase for the viewing public saying their going to debut new talent? They put out press relases taling about expanding to 3 hours and their social media push and things of that nature. But when has WWE ever said out loud to the public "hey fans were going to debut new talent on this show"? That's right, they never have. They do it through vignettes or suprise debuts. Again, I guarentee anything you read about WWE debuting new talents on the 1000th episode was from a spoiler site or was copied and pasted from a spoiler site.
Whatever, I know I'm right and you think you're right. There is no need to continue this.
To get back to positive note: I wonder what his finisher will be? Don't know why, but I'm thinking Double Arm DDT. Hey, it's not like McIntyre is using it anymore.
I remember there was a rumor that said new talent would debut at 1000, but that was just dirt sheet speculation I think. I have a feeling he will be a fall debut. But he should be on the roster already though.
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