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Dean Ambrose Pre-Debut Discussion Thread

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
http://www.pwinsider.com/article/67...nfronts-mick-foley-in-wrestlemania-hotel.html

The following video has leaked online, although as to what the purpose is, I can't yet tell you. It features Mick Foley being confronted for what "his generation" did to the wrestling business by WWE developmental talent Dean Ambrose, who had a dark match last night at the Raw taping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZcwPGLqQ9I

A bit of an odd one. Is this legit beef Ambrose has with Foley or worked? If it's the latter then can we read into it that Ambrose will be moving up to the main roster pretty sharpish? Seems a bit too random.

Could Ambrose get onto the main roster and straight into a feud with Foley?

(ps, apologies if thread has already been created, I can't see any threads in the General WWE section due to forum problems)


EDIT: Here is a great recap of the feud so far for those that don't want to read through 20+ pages of us all marking out like little kids. Credit to Beatles123 for this:

Look on the first page.

It started with that vid. Since then, he's been trying to make Foley be exposed as the cause of, as he puts it, "A lost generation" trying to emulate Foley and getting hurt, as well as Dean himself. He had been through countless deathmatches in CZW and injured his body, as well as seeing his friends not survive because of it.

He has posted vids of people injuring themselves doing backyard wrestling and such, as well as posting pica of his scarred body and making it known that he was being told by WWE to go home when he was arriving to debut because of Foley. He feels he's holding him down like HE'S a criminal when Foley is the same thing.

Foley does not want any part of it because Ambrose would not show him respect and not mention his children. in addition to Regal telling Mick to be careful due to his psychological mindgames, Ambrose counters by saying he never did mention them, but Foley IS blinding them to reality. Foley says he can't get into this like Cactus Jack did in 1995 with his "Cane Dewy" promo. not at his age and not with someone he feels can seriously take liberties in the ring. Ambrose mournes the loss of Foley's "Testicular Fortitude" and calls him, in terms he can understand, "The cowardly lion of WWE"

To be continued...
 
#1,806 ·
I can see Dean Debuting tonight or next week on Raw 1000. I'd like a segment where CM Punk and AJ are talking in the ring then suddenly Dean Jumps from the crowd , starts beating down on CM Punk and AJ is there just watching and she hands a steel chair to Ambrose with that sinister look she has then Cena comes out cashes in the MITB and wins the WWE title. The next night Dean explains to everyone that this was his master plan and AJ was apart of it all along to help CM Punk lose the title and to use CM Punk for what AJ really wanted. TO bring her psycho boyfriend Dean in to take over the WWE
 
#1,822 ·
You know what will be cool. If they used the Tout thing to debut Dean Ambrose. They can have him cut a promo every week, so people will get to know who he is.
 
#1,826 · (Edited)
I really think it would be a really good idea. Have Dean Ambrose cut these promo's on Tout during RAW. It'll be a very easy way to get his character over without the usual debut video's, it'll be very unique and different.

I've also always had this fascination with Dean Ambrose having promo's like the camcorder video in Dark Knight than involved The Joker and the faux Batman. Have him just cutting promo's on different people on poster's and such, acting very strange and mysterious. Than he'll turn the camera around to his face, "hi, I'm Dean Ambrose."
 
#1,828 ·
Naaah. I could see him costing Punk the title next week though. How else is Punk going to lose to Cena? They absolutely cannot give Cena the clean win since they've built up Punk for the last 9-

What am I saying. WWE will bury anyone to get Cena over. I could see a clean victory for Cena next week :no:
 
#1,829 ·
Here we go.

Next week is the 1000th episode of RAW. Ambrose HAS to debut here or else I start to lose interest in where he shows up because then the Summerslam hype will stat and there will be no way to fit him in. Not saying it has to be with Foley because I think that ship has sailed but he needs to be on that show next Monday. Whether it's interfering in the Bryan/AJ wedding, or costing Punk the match, or feuding with Cena whatever. He needs to be there. Now.
 
#1,830 ·
You guys are giving WWE way too much credit here. There's no way Ambrose is being put in a major feud from the get-go. He'll either debut on NXT or get put in a feud with Justin Gabriel or some other midcarder. WWE don't have enough faith in their new stars to just skyrocket them to the main event scene immediately.
 
#1,832 ·
I could see it happening but I hope it doesn't. The last thing Bryan needs is to be thrust into a feud with a debuting star who can't afford to lose his first feud, because it'll mean Bryan will lose so Ambrose can make an "impact". Secondly, the last thing Ambrose needs is to be saddled with AJ, unless they actually give him a full on Joker character and make AJ his Harley-quinn.
 
#1,868 ·
If he doesn't debut next week, it's not a death nail. I know your the pessimist here but seriously, we have a DX reunion, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, Punk vs. Cena, probably Undertaker, probably Stone Cold, Mick Foley, and so many other current stars and former legends.

I'm a big Ambrose fan, but believe it or not, WWE has more important things to worry about next week than Dean Ambrose. I was the first guy on this forum to ask if all you think Ambrose will debut next week by crashing the Bryan/AJ wedding. I'm sure as hell not guarenteeing it will happen, but I think it would be a unique way to debut and get heat (if Bryan is really turning face).

Even if they waited until episode 1001, what would be the big deal. Unless I heard wrong, Raw will be in his hometown of Cinncinati on episode 1001. Plus the show won't be star heavy w/ legends.

If he doesn't debut next week, I'm fine w/ it since they already have a shitload current stars and legends to showcase.
 
#1,837 ·
What is all this love for Dean Ambrose?

a.k.a Jon Moxley.

I've seen some of his work, a talented guy especially on the Mic, yet some of his mic work is as dark as fuck that won't go over in PG WWE. Yet on here he's seen as the second coming and crazy talk of having him screw over Punk during the Cena match at RAW 1000 show or have him thrown into a big feud with Daniel Bryan over AJ (we've already seen it with Punk/BRyan). This guy like Bryan Danielson and Cm Punk will have to start on the bottom and work his way up and we all know talent always rises to the top after hard graft.

I Just want to ask Ambrose marks do you think WWE will push this guy to the main event straight away or is he in for a long slow move up the ladder once he hits WWE main roster?
 
#1,838 ·
Re: What is all this love for Dean Ambrose?

I see him debuting with an impact, but I do think WWE will give him a slow build up. In order to capture his essence.

I'd love it, if he challenged and won the Intercontinental/United States Championship on his debut. Would be pretty impactful debut, winning a title in only your first match.
 
#1,842 ·
Re: What is all this love for Dean Ambrose?

I'm sick of nearly everyone on this forum kissing his ass calling him the greatest thing since sliced bread yet we have seen him do jack shit. I already hate the guy and I've never seen him, I just hate how people think is he the G.O.A.T without doing a damn thing.
Maybe people think that way, because they've seen his work outside of the WWE. You should check out some old Jon Moxley clips if you never saw him. But he's a talanted motherfucker, nonetheless.
 
#1,841 ·
Re: What is all this love for Dean Ambrose?

Does anyone think he debut on NXT??

I think he will have a slow build and probably then start to get big feuds once he makes an impression with the crowd.

I can't see him been involved with AJ/Bryan to be honest.
 
#1,845 ·
Re: What is all this love for Dean Ambrose?

He is unproven
That's what IWC loves

It's different to wrestle in independence circuits and smaller places but to do it in WWE week in and week out.

If he succeeds-His talent
If he flops-WWE booked him badly

Every wrestler unless he has a hall of fame dad or contacts has to get over by themselves.Stone Cold was kept down yet became the GOAT.Cena was as generic as possible and they gave him a rapper gimmick yet he is on a league very few can match in history.Daniel Bryan was booked like shit yet managed to get over with the fans.

Let's hope this guy is as good as they tell him to be
 
#1,847 ·
Re: What is all this love for Dean Ambrose?

As good as he may be, to the general public, he is a nobody. People on here are looking through rose-tinted glasses. I am a fan of the guy myself, but I find it funny that as smart as the IWC is supposed to be, they think WWE is brave enough to push Ambrose into the upper-midcard/main event scene immediately, which just isn't going to happen. There's not a chance he's getting pushed above guys like Ryback or Sandow just because he's a great worker, he needs to have a connection with the crowd first and we've already established that within the WWE "Universe", the IWC doesn't count. He's good, but he's not the second coming.
 
#1,848 ·
If he debuts next week it will be pretty much forgettable. So many HUGE things are already confirmed. He'll get completely lost in the shuffle. I say Raw 1001 would be best actually. Play a promo hyping him up for that and then when everybody is gone but the hype is still there, debut him then so he still gets a rub and can make an impact without having to compete with DX, Lesnar, Rock, Cena, Punk, Edge, Hart, possibly Austin, Taker, the McMahon's etc etc. It's actually pretty :lmao when you think about him debuting here. Bad idea lol.
 
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