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Dean Ambrose Pre-Debut Discussion Thread

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
http://www.pwinsider.com/article/67...nfronts-mick-foley-in-wrestlemania-hotel.html

The following video has leaked online, although as to what the purpose is, I can't yet tell you. It features Mick Foley being confronted for what "his generation" did to the wrestling business by WWE developmental talent Dean Ambrose, who had a dark match last night at the Raw taping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZcwPGLqQ9I

A bit of an odd one. Is this legit beef Ambrose has with Foley or worked? If it's the latter then can we read into it that Ambrose will be moving up to the main roster pretty sharpish? Seems a bit too random.

Could Ambrose get onto the main roster and straight into a feud with Foley?

(ps, apologies if thread has already been created, I can't see any threads in the General WWE section due to forum problems)


EDIT: Here is a great recap of the feud so far for those that don't want to read through 20+ pages of us all marking out like little kids. Credit to Beatles123 for this:

Look on the first page.

It started with that vid. Since then, he's been trying to make Foley be exposed as the cause of, as he puts it, "A lost generation" trying to emulate Foley and getting hurt, as well as Dean himself. He had been through countless deathmatches in CZW and injured his body, as well as seeing his friends not survive because of it.

He has posted vids of people injuring themselves doing backyard wrestling and such, as well as posting pica of his scarred body and making it known that he was being told by WWE to go home when he was arriving to debut because of Foley. He feels he's holding him down like HE'S a criminal when Foley is the same thing.

Foley does not want any part of it because Ambrose would not show him respect and not mention his children. in addition to Regal telling Mick to be careful due to his psychological mindgames, Ambrose counters by saying he never did mention them, but Foley IS blinding them to reality. Foley says he can't get into this like Cactus Jack did in 1995 with his "Cane Dewy" promo. not at his age and not with someone he feels can seriously take liberties in the ring. Ambrose mournes the loss of Foley's "Testicular Fortitude" and calls him, in terms he can understand, "The cowardly lion of WWE"

To be continued...
 
#1,141 ·
Assuming his shoulder is fine, as I don't think he will miss any action from this, he should make his debut on the 1000th episode of Raw. The 1000th episode of Raw is the perfect time to debut one superstar or in other words: WWE's number one developmental prospect. And that is exactly what Dean Ambrose is.

Say Foley shows up on Raw sometime within the next month to plug something or be the special guest. While he's is talking, A vignette plays on the titantron. This vignette would consist of Ambrose in a dark setting such as a dark alley. These promos would consist of Ambrose talking about how Foley ruined a generation, how he ruined other wrestlers (such as Edge), how he ruined him, etc. Ambrose says he will lead the new generation. The promo ends w/ these words on the screen: "On July 23rd... A New Generation Begins."

These videos would continue for weeks until the 1000th episode. Foley comes out to confront Ambrose. Ambrose's music hits (whatever his debut theme will be). He comes out of the crowd and attacks Foley. He destroys Foley w/ chairs, tables, tacks (ya know, all of Foley's signature weapons). Ambrose walks away while Foley is strechered out.

Ambrose then goes on to feud w/ someone who stands up for Foley (any mid carder will do). Foley stays away from WWE for a while. At the Royal Rumble in 2013, Ambrose is standing tall in the ring until Foley is the next entrant. Think of Orton and Foley in 2004. He eventually eliminates himself and Ambrose.

This all leads to a Wrestlemania 29 Hardcore match. Foley takes his one final big bump (he has said he has one more big bump left in him) and Ambrose walks away the winner.

Well, there's my fantasy prediction.
 
#1,149 ·
I know everyone is anticipating Ambrose's debut to immediately coincide with a Foley feud, but I think it would be interesting to have him debut in the "local jobber role" in a Ryback match. Here is the scenario:

Have all the other "Oh man Rybacks about to maul this guy" pre match shenanigans backstage and on commentary. Then, let Dean cut a strange/esoteric/intense promo which is the first red flag something is wrong. Ryback comes out and lambasts Dean for two minutes and everything is business as usual: "Look at the power of this man" , "This dude is scary dawg" etc. Finally, have Ryback do his "Finish....HIM!!" taunt, only to meet a pair of brass knucks(Regal homage) to the mouth. The ref rings the bell, DQ'ing Dean (so Ryback still has his Win streak and looks strong since it took a weapon to incapacitate him) as he continues to wail on Ryback while shouting like a lunatic, only to flee from refs and officials into the crowd with a crooked smile. Confusion/Stunned silence from the Cole Mine would be the icing on the cake.
 
#1,153 ·
I would prefer Ambrose on Smackdown just for the sole fact of Booker's commentary.
 
#1,163 ·
I really don't think they'd wait for the 1000'th Raw. That's gonna be a BIG show, creative will be totally exhausted. I HIGHLY doubt one of the things on Vince McMahon's mind is debuting a new wrestler, and I know we might want to think that WWE has huge plans for Dean, and maybe they do, but no matter how much Vince likes Dean, I don't think he likes him anywhere near as much as we do. Certainly not enough to just hold off his debut for (what's supposed to be, anyway) the biggest Raw of all time.

I don't think WWE is writing anything special. I think it's probably just a case of selecting people ahead of him to join the roster and then holding off because they think they debuted too many people at the same time.
 
#1,167 ·
I'm getting soooooo impatient! Especially with RAW getting worse and worse!
 
#1,168 ·
put him on... against somebody big... get him to win... prove he isn't just talk... the revolution promos look good! he reminds me of the joker off of batman: the dark knight which is fucking ill! make sure its a heel thing thought because him as a revolutionary face makes him CM Punk #2
 
#1,169 ·
Good Raw last night. Anyways, I just hope he doesn't get a bunch of vignettes and just squash random people every week. That has been done several times and often just gets boring. Look at Tensai for example. Keep the vignettes b/c I always love WWE's promo work. But have him attack someone or come out of the crowd; something unique.

What I would like to see happen is to have vignettes hyping his debut and then debut on July 23rd and then attack Mick Foley and then explain himself the next week. He has been competing in every pre show dark match for weeks. His debut is imminent.
 
#1,170 ·
I'd much rather see him get squashed in a way at first.
Have him face a respectable midcarder on his debut, with him not getting his own way throughout the match and becoming more and more frustrated, before snapping, getting himself DQ'd and beating them senseless.
Would let him seem dangerous without it simply being because he has power, while also quickly establishing his character that makes him so dangerous.
 
#1,171 ·
Why you're all clamoring for him to debut now when there is fuck all hype surrounding WWE and less people watching is beyond me. At least wait until around Summerslam when there will be (should be) more eyeballs on Raw and bit more hype about the place too. Who the fuck debuts in May/June when WWE is at its lowest point lol? Chill out. Everybody already worked themselves into a frenzy only to be disappointed by the Revolution stuff. Just chill. He'll be here soon enough and tbh, the longer they hold back the better imo. Do you want him to end up like Sandow or Ryback with a determined path, character and opportunity to shine or do you want him to end up like Cesaro who has pretty much been forgotten about already?
 
#1,172 ·
I agree w/ this. The biggest time of the year in WWE is Wrestlemania obviously. That buzz period lasts about a month into Extreme Rules where we mostly see Wrestlemania rematches. But once we get into May, WWE hits a lull. Right now, would not be great time to debut Ambrose or any top prospect.

That's why we are all hoping his debut comes on the 1000th episode of Raw on July 23rd. It's the perfect time to debut someone. It's the biggest show in Raw history and it's the middle of Summer, which means in the middle of the build to Summerslam.
 
#1,174 ·
He won't end up like Cesaro, Cesaro had nowhere near the hype surrounding him that Ambrose did. Ambrose is getting CM Punk/Daniel Bryan before their debuts level of attention. Not to say that will correlate to the same success.....necessarily, but he'll be considerably better off than Cesaro. It's not surprising that Cesaro fell off the map because at the end of the day, he really isn't that good, where it counts. Sandow is too epic to be ignored in the same way as Cesaro and Ryback is apparantly Vince's personal fetish (IF reports are to be believed), or at worst, he's at least somebody who's extraordinarily big, so he doesn't have to work very hard for a steady spot.
 
#1,176 ·
Regardless of all that, clamoring for a debut now of all times is just silly to me. Better to wait until there's a little hype on the actual shows and a air of excitement surrounding them as it will rub off on him too. The dull, plodding lifeless mess that Raw is atm is no place for a debut the way most here want. Besides, they need to start airing promos for him on the shows too. While the internet may be pissing themselves to see him, most people won't know who the fuck he is.
 
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