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Dean Ambrose Pre-Debut Discussion Thread

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http://www.pwinsider.com/article/67...nfronts-mick-foley-in-wrestlemania-hotel.html

The following video has leaked online, although as to what the purpose is, I can't yet tell you. It features Mick Foley being confronted for what "his generation" did to the wrestling business by WWE developmental talent Dean Ambrose, who had a dark match last night at the Raw taping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZcwPGLqQ9I

A bit of an odd one. Is this legit beef Ambrose has with Foley or worked? If it's the latter then can we read into it that Ambrose will be moving up to the main roster pretty sharpish? Seems a bit too random.

Could Ambrose get onto the main roster and straight into a feud with Foley?

(ps, apologies if thread has already been created, I can't see any threads in the General WWE section due to forum problems)


EDIT: Here is a great recap of the feud so far for those that don't want to read through 20+ pages of us all marking out like little kids. Credit to Beatles123 for this:

Look on the first page.

It started with that vid. Since then, he's been trying to make Foley be exposed as the cause of, as he puts it, "A lost generation" trying to emulate Foley and getting hurt, as well as Dean himself. He had been through countless deathmatches in CZW and injured his body, as well as seeing his friends not survive because of it.

He has posted vids of people injuring themselves doing backyard wrestling and such, as well as posting pica of his scarred body and making it known that he was being told by WWE to go home when he was arriving to debut because of Foley. He feels he's holding him down like HE'S a criminal when Foley is the same thing.

Foley does not want any part of it because Ambrose would not show him respect and not mention his children. in addition to Regal telling Mick to be careful due to his psychological mindgames, Ambrose counters by saying he never did mention them, but Foley IS blinding them to reality. Foley says he can't get into this like Cactus Jack did in 1995 with his "Cane Dewy" promo. not at his age and not with someone he feels can seriously take liberties in the ring. Ambrose mournes the loss of Foley's "Testicular Fortitude" and calls him, in terms he can understand, "The cowardly lion of WWE"

To be continued...
 
#1,238 ·
If there was an indy stable then he'd be the perfect choice to be the leader of it besides CM Punk
 
#1,242 ·
I wish I could take him seriously, but again, JR never badmouths anyone and would probably say Tyler Reks is a future world champion, so you can't put any weight into his thoughts. He is right about Ambrose, but coming from him, they're hollow words because he just doesn't have it in him to tell the truth and say "No, this guy SUCKS" every now and then. When you hear compliments coming from him about the whole roster, the bullshit factor just wears so thin. The fact that he says almost the same thing about John Morrison jr, aka Seth Rollins proves as much.
 
#1,243 ·
I really want them to add a very real angle to his debut. Every debut in recent memory has had either vignettes, squash matches, or has generally been uninteresting depending on who it is. If Ambrose just came out when Foley or someone was in the ring and savagely beat him, like blood and shit, it would add something never seen in the WWE nowadays. People, especially the casual fans, would be legitimately shocked about it if Lawler and Cole can make it seem like this is completely unintended. Have security rush the ring and subdue him and cuff him and everything. Have him stick out in our minds as "wow what the fuck just happened?".
 
#1,244 ·
Which is exactly why I want his debut to be delayed of it needs to because his debut, the first time you see or hear him on WWE TV, it has to be big. It need to feel like a huge deal. It has to be something that gets people talking. Just sending him out there to squash people, or being in backstage/video promos, or lose in his first match which cause him to snap are all beneath him, IM. Hell, we already got Ryback, Sandow, Cesaro debuting out of nowhere and Reks/Hawkins, O'Neil/Young, The Usos, Sin Cara being re-introduced. Ambrose needs to stand out and not just be "another guy". He can cut a hell of a promo and his in ring work can be unique, sure, but so what if the WWE undercut him from the beginning if they don't do something with a real gem in Ambrose? Attacking and disowning Foley would be one way and there may be other ways but it has to benefit Ambrose.
 
#1,245 ·
I agree. If they are truly delaying his debut because they want it to be at a special place, or a special event, then kudos to them. The optimist in me is still saying the 1000th episode of Raw is prime time for him. They are gonna have a shit ton of the big names from the past 20 years there, other than Cena and maybe a handful of newer guys, I doubt any current roster members are gonna have any tv time at all. Have Ambrose interject a McMahon promo, or something. Make it a huge impact, have the WWE website in huge letters saying "What did we just witness?" or "Who is this man?" with a picture of a psychotic Ambrose on top of a bleeding McMahon or Foley or whoever. I don't think they should rehash the legend killer gimmick, but they should definitely have Ambrose make examples of former stars to give himself that bigger impact.

If they are only delaying his debut so he has that match with regal, then it would make no sense to me. Although I do think it's a good thing to have Regal lose, giving Ambrose that final push to the main roster.
 
#1,246 ·
With Vince on RAW next week and it being 3 hours, what do you think of the chances of Ambrose/Foley kicking off next week?

Part of me actually hope he stays off longer - I'd prefer him to come back when the product is looking healthier. Preferably on Raw #1000.
 
#1,247 ·
I doubt we get any. Unless Foley comes out and starts building his hype and says he has an announcement that he'll make at the 1000th RAW episode.

Ambrose needs this angle to make him big. Any stupid angle of him squashing jobbers, giving Ryback his first loss/beatdown, standard promos and backstage hype, or of the same will devalue how much potential Ambrose really has.
 
#1,250 ·
I don't see that happening unless Foley comes out with Vince for a segment or something and hints are dropped.

Don't expect any Ambrose hints next Monday, guys. Everyone's best bet is to wait until the 1000th episode of RAW.
 
#1,252 ·
Swear to god.

If there should be one man that is deemed worthy of dethroning Rollins, culminating in one of the best rivalry and set of matches in FCW's history, it's Ambrose!
 
#1,253 ·
Why would you want to see Ambrose win the FCW title when we need him on WWE tv? We don't need an excuse to keep him down there. Not to mention, every FCW champion, ever, other than Sheamus, who got by on being Triple H's buddy has been a massive failure in WWE, so winning the title isn't exactly a good omen.
 
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