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You can't justify having a guy like Ambrose come straight from FCW and beat Ryback. They've spent months trying to make Ryback look like a legitimate monster-like threat, now he's finally getting over, you're going to have a guy that the crowd have never seen before who is only a few pounds bigger than Punk (who is booked to fear Ryback) come in and beat him? Are you Vince Russo? They want Ryback to look like a massive threat to the entire roster, if he loses/gets taken out by a debuting Ambrose they'll kill all of his momentum. The "taking him out" route would work great if it was Brock Lesnar doing it, but not Dean Ambrose ffs.
Mankind took out Undertaker on HIS FIRST NIGHT IN THE COMPANY.
It can work. And for the fans to accept Ryback, he has to lose. But by losing to someone booked as equally unstoppable it won't affect his reputation.

Look at history, wrestlers with the undefeated streak inevitably hit a slump as soon as they have to job. This is a great way of stopping that, pushing both Ryback and Ambrose and giving fans a hard hitting feud - free from the title scene - that will appeal to mature audiences tired of clean cut faces and heels.

Both are exciting new talents, both have great potential, both should be given the chance to show what they can do.
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Mankind took out Undertaker on HIS FIRST NIGHT IN THE COMPANY.
It can work. And for the fans to accept Ryback, he has to lose. But by losing to someone booked as equally unstoppable it won't affect his reputation.

Look at history, wrestlers with the undefeated streak inevitably hit a slump as soon as they have to job. This is a great way of stopping that, pushing both Ryback and Ambrose and giving fans a hard hitting feud - free from the title scene - that will appeal to mature audiences tired of clean cut faces and heels.

Both are exciting new talents, both have great potential, both should be given the chance to show what they can do.
How the hell can you compare Mick Foley pre-WWE and Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose pre-WWE?! How old are you, 15 or something? You're talking about a guy who had been in WCW for 3 years and spent time in ECW who were a lot bigger than any of the indies Moxley has worked for. You're talking about Mick Foley, a guy who 4 years before even debuting in WWF, had wrestled STING on WCW pay-per-view. You also forgetting his texas death match with Vader in the MAIN EVENT at Halloween Havoc in 1993?

I literally cannot believe you'd be stupid enough to compare Mick Foley pre-WWE with Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose. When Mick debuted as Mankind people knew he was, it's not like when Ambrose debuts and only internet fans will know who he is. I'd understand your argument more if Moxley had been relatively over in TNA (even then would still be ludicrous to compare WCW/ECW to TNA, but at least somewhat understandable) but the guy hasn't been on TV before, LET ALONE PPV.

As for Ryback losing, as I previously said, the perfect person for him to lose to/get taken out by would be Brock.


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i just cant wait till this guy debuts,

dean ambrose is the only superstar on the planet i would accept seeing end the undertakers wrestlemania streak
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How the hell can you compare Mick Foley pre-WWE and Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose pre-WWE?! How old are you, 15 or something? You're talking about a guy who had been in WCW for 3 years and spent time in ECW who were a lot bigger than any of the indies Moxley has worked for. You're talking about Mick Foley, a guy who 4 years before even debuting in WWF, had wrestled STING on WCW pay-per-view. You also forgetting his texas death match with Vader in the MAIN EVENT at Halloween Havoc in 1993?

I literally cannot believe you'd be stupid enough to compare Mick Foley pre-WWE with Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose. When Mick debuted as Mankind people knew he was, it's not like when Ambrose debuts and only internet fans will know who he is. I'd understand your argument more if Moxley had been relatively over in TNA (even then would still be ludicrous to compare WCW/ECW to TNA, but at least somewhat understandable) but the guy hasn't been on TV before, LET ALONE PPV.
Apologise for those statements and I'll respond to you.
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don't you have anything else to do that moan about what some people, on the internet, are talking about.

also I'd love it if Dean Ambrose did achieve all of those things in his sig...it would be poetic justice in itself lol.


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I'm a huge Ambrose fan but comparing him to Mick Foley who feuded with world champions Sting, Vader, and Ron Simmons on a nationally brodcast wrestling company, to Jonathan Good, who is not known outside Smarkville is absolutely ridiculous.
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