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Old 09-19-2012, 12:16 AM   #2711 (permalink)
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I know I won't be alone in getting a kick out of people that are dismissing Ambrose as a 'no-name' or 'indy hack' right now that will be cumming in their pants after his first promo.

Is he the second coming of Christ? Probably not. Does he offer something new that so many people claim to crave? Absolutely. Give the guy a live mic, something based in reality to talk about, and don't rush him to a main event match with Cena within the first month of getting called up and the guy is going to get over HUGE.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:59 AM   #2712 (permalink)
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thats true if people think Punk looks like a veteran garbage truck driver their going to think Ambrose is the manager of a Burger King.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:14 AM   #2713 (permalink)
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lol I know a dark match doesn't mean anything, I just got a good laugh off of it. anyway, I remember him and Foley have some worked spat at a WWE event. Why did the ditch the plan to have him debut and feud against Foley?

I have to disagree slightly. Dark Matchtes mean something. Most of the time the wrestlers who are competing in the dark matches are the ones who are closest to being used on raw or smackdown. The last few dark matches have been with Ambrose (in a loss to Kofi) and Roman Reigns aka Leakee (in a win against Heath Slater). Those two seem to be getting serious looks right now.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:25 AM   #2714 (permalink)
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Since he's so talented, creative, and flexible with any gimmick, they'll give him a a flamboyant, borderline homosexual character and call him "Sugar" Dean Ambrose which they'll shorten after a month to just "Sugar" Dean.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:29 AM   #2715 (permalink)
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I think Dean is getting a big angle straight away (possibly main event caliber.)only because I doubt they would keep him off tv this long if all they have planned for him is a feud for the U.S title or some other stupid career wasting bullshit which they could've done months ago (I hope so anyway.)
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:07 AM   #2716 (permalink)
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Bit gutted he lost to Kofi however 1) dark matches in terms on win/loss are irrelevant and 2) Kofi is a crowd favourite and so for the interest of the crowd they would prob want to see him win, especially as it has no relevance to a storyline or feud and casuals have no idea who Ambrose is right now.

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 we'll agree to disagree although I imagine if we were face to face we would for the most part agree on the topic, arguing on the internet is pointless. however you do like the same music as me so thats pretty nice.

@The Lizard I want him to be pushed to the moon but nothing big time main event, as i've said earlier on, i'd like him INVOLVED with main eventers without being THE main event. look at Sandow, he mostly sticks to midcarders but occasionally rubs shoulders with main event talent AND legends. Ryback also looks to be heading in that direction due to his involvement with The Miz, ok he is holding a midcard title but hes been a main eventer and has a big following, if anything he has elevated the I.C title far more than Cody aimed to do.

A few weeks of squash matches to get him known ( I hate them too but they are necessary), make sure each time he cuts a promo then have him fighting midcarders for another few weeks, getting himself DQ'd sometimes and being out and out brutal then shove him into something relevant. I don't know what yet because storylines might have changed by the time he has established himself.

My dream is for him to be involved with Heyman while still chasing down midcarders (so he is tormenting the midcard while Punk and Lesnar torment the main eventers) but I understand the likeliness of such a thing happening is low.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:40 AM   #2717 (permalink)
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I have to disagree slightly. Dark Matchtes mean something. Most of the time the wrestlers who are competing in the dark matches are the ones who are closest to being used on raw or smackdown. The last few dark matches have been with Ambrose (in a loss to Kofi) and Roman Reigns aka Leakee (in a win against Heath Slater). Those two seem to be getting serious looks right now.
Not really. There are a handful of guys who have been doing dark matches once in a while going back a year and still aren't on Raw/Smackdown. Ambrose has been doing dark matches off and on for most of the year. Xavier Woods gets dark matches. Big E does dark matches. Bray Wyatt was doing them prior to injury. I saw Leo Kruger wrestle a dark match a full year ago.

There's a large gap between wanting to give a guy a look and seriously considering giving him a bump to Raw/Smackdown. I'd argue that "most of the time" it doesn't mean all that much.

That being said, Dean is definitely "ready" for Raw/Smackdown. Roman, on the other hand, still probably needs a LOT of work. The last time I saw him in FCW, he was considerably worse than basically anyone currently working in NXT.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:51 AM   #2718 (permalink)
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A lot of people are saying 'have him attack Cena'. But I think they're missing the point of his character. Cena is motivated by the title, Ambrose is a wrestler who does not care about winning championships. It wouldn't make sense for him to go after a main event caliber guy when you consider the nihilistic aspect to his persona.
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A lot of people are saying 'have him attack Cena'. But I think they're missing the point of his character. Cena is motivated by the title, Ambrose is a wrestler who does not care about winning championships. It wouldn't make sense for him to go after a main event caliber guy when you consider the nihilistic aspect to his persona.
Yeah good point. I can sense similarities with 1996/early-1997 Steve Austin, where he would just go after Bret Hart like a crazed animal and pull off scintillating promos, completely blind to who was the champion.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:17 PM   #2720 (permalink)
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I'm really looking forward to his debut.

Honestly I didn't watch him before, but from what I hear about him I'm really excited to see him in the ring and watching one of his promos.
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