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post #2701 of 3754 (permalink) Old 09-18-2012, 10:57 PM
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I'm not a hipster. I don't like him because he isnt mainstream, I like him because he is good. you seem to have ignored the part where I talked about other wrestlers I like...CM Punk is my current on tv favourite and hes the WWE Champion, can't get more mainstream than that, my friend. You're showing hipster qualities by saying that you liked him till everyone else started talking about him. Is he mentioned unnecessarily sometimes? of course, many wrestlers are its just ambrose sticks out to you cause you have a chip on your shoulder about him.
CM Punk may be popular, but he still represents the antithesis of what the WWE calls a superstar. The same can be said of Bryan, Ryder, and yes, even Ziggler.


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You're showing hipster qualities by saying that you liked him till everyone else started talking about him.
Nope, still like him. I even said I did before:

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I wasn't being literal when I said I wanted him fired. I ended my main argument with with how I truly feel which was asking some of you to calm down when it comes to him. The only way you could interepet what I said as reaffirming that I want him to get fired is if you took what I orginally said literally and read my next post with that perpestive.

And I'm not being a wrestling "hipster", which ironically you are since you said you like Ambrose because he's the antithesis of everything you don't like in the WWE. I'm still a fan of Amrbose, but I'm tired of his overzealous marks.

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long story short to end this silly argument:
-you were stupid enough to whine on a Ambrose thread in the first place
Where else am I suppose to complain about his fans?

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- hipster rejects the mainstream, has nothing to do with liking a few things that exist outside of said mainstream, many bands I like are not mainstream, others are. variety is good for the soul.
You yourself reject the mainstream for simply liking Ambrose because he's the opposite of the mainstream. Also, Ambrose isn't mainstream to neither casuals or the IWC. My complaints wasn't that Ambrose is popular online or on this forum. My complaint is that some of his fans have delusions of grandeur about him and constantly whine about Ambrose not debuting or being put immediately in huge angles where he doesn't fit in (i.e. making a stable with Punk and Heyman against Cena).

Also, when it comes to music, I listen to classical music, rock, rap, metal, jazz, country, K-Pop, J-Pop, American pop, folk, and indy.

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-whether you admit it or not you basically said you want him to get fired to get a cheap chuckle
As disappointing it would be to see him get released, the reaction online would be funny.

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-your bitter and need to let it go. be POSITIVE about the wrestlers you like, let other people like what they want to like, don't be a killjoy.
Some of his fans are killing my joy. That's my problem.

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Interesting but where exactly did you hear this?



Love Ambrose. But enough of "debut him w/ Punk" or "debut him against Cena." Ambrose has still proven nothing on live TV. Debut him so he can have a big impact and then allow him to work up the roster. I don't want to see him shoved down my throat to quickly, no matter how good he is.



So you would have quit the company that would make you the most money in your line of work? Not exactly a smart move. I've said it before: They were going to debut him against Mick Foley. It fell apart. It fell apart in the build up to the 1000th episode of Raw and Summerslam. I'm glad they didn't debut Ambrose during that time b/c he would have been lost in the build up. Do I want to see him debut? Absolutely. But I just don't him to debut just for the sake of everyone losing their patience. WWE needs a story for him to debut. In my eyes, I think he could have one in this Kane/Bryan/Dr. Shelby story. I can see him debuting somehow in this storyline. Not sure how, but I can see it.
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This discussion is funny. Ambrose fanboys are so defensive, hmm, I wonder what that reminds me of? Ah that's right, the Bryan fanboys, which is why I find JoseDRiveraTCR7's comment so funny because he's a overzealous Bryan fanboy.

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First of all I'd like to say, lmfao at my boy Kofi Kingston beating Ambrose in a dark match on Smackdown. Now, why does every Ambrose idea have him being into the main event scene? Seriously, its crazy.
lmfao at your boy Kofi competing in dark matches. The guy's midcard for life son, give up your #PushHim gimmick.

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Yeah 16 year olds need Cena to do that.
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This discussion is funny. Ambrose fanboys are so defensive, hmm, I wonder what that reminds me of? Ah that's right, the Bryan fanboys, which is why I find JoseDRiveraTCR7's comment so funny because he's a overzealous Bryan fanboy.



lmfao at your boy Kofi competing in dark matches. The guy's midcard for life son, give up your #PushHim gimmick.



Owned.
I've actually (and still am trying to) calmed down. Ever since Redeemer got the Daniel Bryan appreciation thread closed I've realized we had gone too far. I'm actually the one that got Carcass banned if that means anything.

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First of all I'd like to say, lmfao at my boy Kofi Kingston beating Ambrose in a dark match on Smackdown. Now, why does every Ambrose idea have him being into the main event scene? Seriously, its crazy.
This means nothing. Daniel Bryan loses at house shows all the time, but he's still one of their bigger stars.

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Lol. I can't really say The Bryan fandom has died down, people still overrate him like crazy, it's just some posters have replaced those who don't really post anymore (Redeemer) or are banned (Carcass). Some of the newer posters aren't as annoying though, which is good, I was sick to death of Redeemer's deluded posts and Carcass's blatant poor attempt at gimmick posting.

Only time will tell if the Ambrose fanboys will be worse. The obsession with him on this forum already is giving a bad sign already, god help us when he finally debuts. I hope the forum crashes when he finally does.
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Only time will tell if the Ambrose fanboys will be worse. The obsession with him on this forum already is giving a bad sign already, god help us when he finally debuts. I hope the forum crashes when he finally does.
The forum will be down for 40 days and 40 nights when he debuts. I'm probably gonna use 20 times when he debuts but that's about it. The people who say he needs to be in the main event right when he debuts are the reason why people like ADR and Sheamus get like no reaction, or a minimal reaction as opposed to someone like Punk or Cena.

Look at Ryback, as soon as he debuted people were like "oh he's gonna go nowhere, he'll be on superstars in a month losing to Drew Mac". They slowly built him up, he's over as fuck, his chant, he has a main event look, now he's going to hopefully win the IC title against Miz.

Sandow, he didn't get thrown into a main event, he definitely interacted with the main event stars though, he was in the opening segment of Raw 1000 with all of DX, he was in a match with Sheamus and Orton and didn't get pinned in either of em, that's proper build up. He gets heat, he's a good character, and he has a very bright future, just because they decided to book him properly.

Ambrose should be booked just like the 2 I mentioned, he can't be thrown in our faces constantly, but he can't lose every match and become a fixture of Saturday Morning Slam, they need to know when a defeat is a good thing for him, and when he needs to win a match, they also need to know who to put him in a feud with at first, if they do everything right, he'll be well on his way to success.
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Ambrose has also beaten guys like Ryder and Kidd in dark matches. They mean nothing. They're just for the entertainment of the live crowd.

Not every Ambrose idea have him being inserted in the main event. Well, some of them do. But fans like myself just want to see him debut an impactful way. My idea has been to debut him against Kane. It's not the main event, but it's a feud against a long time veteran that would get Ambrose over. And just to point out to you, WWE was going to debut Ambrose against Mick Foley. That's a pretty good indication that WWE wants to feature him in a somewhat prominent spot on the roster.
lol I know a dark match doesn't mean anything, I just got a good laugh off of it. anyway, I remember him and Foley have some worked spat at a WWE event. Why did the ditch the plan to have him debut and feud against Foley?

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This discussion is funny. Ambrose fanboys are so defensive, hmm, I wonder what that reminds me of? Ah that's right, the Bryan fanboys, which is why I find JoseDRiveraTCR7's comment so funny because he's a overzealous Bryan fanboy.



lmfao at your boy Kofi competing in dark matches. The guy's midcard for life son, give up your #PushHim gimmick.



Owned.
Hasn't everybody worked Dark matches before? I'm a Kofi mark, I'm not gonna give up the #PushKofi gimmick. I'd be a awful mark if I did that lol.

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in before people complaining "he's not big/jacked enough" when the fact is like CM Punk, he probably works out regularly but simply isn't on steroids like most of the roster, and that makes all the difference in the world.
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Re: Dean Ambrose Pre-Debut Discussion Thread

I know I won't be alone in getting a kick out of people that are dismissing Ambrose as a 'no-name' or 'indy hack' right now that will be cumming in their pants after his first promo.

Is he the second coming of Christ? Probably not. Does he offer something new that so many people claim to crave? Absolutely. Give the guy a live mic, something based in reality to talk about, and don't rush him to a main event match with Cena within the first month of getting called up and the guy is going to get over HUGE.
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