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Old 09-06-2012, 06:03 PM   #2591 (permalink)
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I don't see it and I don't think it should happen just because it's not smart in this day and age to have someone instantly insert themselves into a main event especially as a debut just because if they get no crowd reaction then they're fucked. Maybe if they introduce him first it can happen, but not till HiaC or something.
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:34 PM   #2592 (permalink)
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Of course it's too long, but that's their thing. Even X-Pac who works in developmental directly said "they hold these guys down there too long".

They should've debuted him right after Mania along with Sandow, those are the two guys who should've jumped straight into the main roster. Instead they picked Cesaro instead of Ambrose and hasn't that worked out well, they haven't done a DAMN thing with him, awful storyline, boring, shitty mic worker, nobody cares. They had another chance but they killed off the hype of Ambrose's debut by not debuting him weeks ago, there's no incentive for WWE to debut him now because there's no hype. They might do it but I'm not convinced. WWE probably thinks they can waste time with him because he's so young, which is the wrong mentality. 100% wrong.
OK, I agree that they could have debuted him after Wrestlemania. In fact, he would have debuted by now if his feud w/ Foley hadn't fallen through. But it did fall through and that forced WWE to change their plans. And, it fell apart at the worse possible time. It fell apart during the build up to Raw 1000 and Summerslam. WWE had much bigger plans to worry about than Ambrose.

You keep saying WWE should have debuted him weeks ago. Again, if he had debuted on Raw 1000, he would have been overshadowed by all the returning legends like Taker and Rock. And and keep harping on Raw 1001 too. Why would that have been a good place to debut him? B/c it was in his hometown? Makes no sense. There was no story in place for him. Why debut him just for the hell of it. Yeah, he would have gotten a good reaction. But he's a heel. So, WWE wouldn't want him to get a face reaction in his debut.

Yeah, the hype from a few hundred or thousand fans has died. But there are still millions of WWE fans who have no idea who he is. Those are the fans WWE is worrying about, not the internet fans who will be happy no matter what when he debuts.

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Anyone else think he'll run down to help Punk at Night of Champions?
No. And I hope he doesn't. I'm obviously a huge Ambrose fan, but I don't want to see him or anybody pushed to fast. Plus I don't to see Ambrose as apart of a stable. His character just screams psycho loner.

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I just hope he debuts already. I see him debuting with the Punk-Heyman alliance, though.
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I wouldn't mind him being introduced sort of the way Edge was. Give him some vignettes of him being some crazed loner and then a few Raws down the line, just have the camera pan around and see some loner sitting in the stands.
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I dunno, he could use the stable as a springboard.

AC and Sandow started Midcard and since then have been kinda...well...meh. AC may be US champ but not many people care and Sandow is spending his time running away right now. Put him in the stable but don't have him obsess over cena like punk but have him pick a midcarder to go against while still getting the exposure of being in a stable. Ambrose has worked in a few teams before in the indys, its rare but its happened. It could be a sorta 'protecting my back' kinda thing. Nothing chummy, just looking out for himself, that survival instinct hes had to grow up with. They want to debut him big and push him to the moon anyway so if he is with Punk and Heyman it will draw more attention to him until he can break out on his own. Hes stand out enough to not worry about being the forgotten member and at the same time will get a quick reputation.
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OK, I agree that they could have debuted him after Wrestlemania. In fact, he would have debuted by now if his feud w/ Foley hadn't fallen through. But it did fall through and that forced WWE to change their plans. And, it fell apart at the worse possible time. It fell apart during the build up to Raw 1000 and Summerslam. WWE had much bigger plans to worry about than Ambrose.

You keep saying WWE should have debuted him weeks ago. Again, if he had debuted on Raw 1000, he would have been overshadowed by all the returning legends like Taker and Rock. And and keep harping on Raw 1001 too. Why would that have been a good place to debut him? B/c it was in his hometown? Makes no sense. There was no story in place for him. Why debut him just for the hell of it. Yeah, he would have gotten a good reaction. But he's a heel. So, WWE wouldn't want him to get a face reaction in his debut.

Yeah, the hype from a few hundred or thousand fans has died. But there are still millions of WWE fans who have no idea who he is. Those are the fans WWE is worrying about, not the internet fans who will be happy no matter what when he debuts.



No. And I hope he doesn't. I'm obviously a huge Ambrose fan, but I don't want to see him or anybody pushed to fast. Plus I don't to see Ambrose as apart of a stable. His character just screams psycho loner.

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As for the "We Want Ambrose" sign, my guess is one of the guys who run WWE.com put the picture up, the WWE officials saw it, and took it down. This could mean something for his debut, but I doubt it.
Just curious why you hate Tyrion so much lol. its funny every thread i see him post in you're right behind ready to dispute anything.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:38 PM   #2597 (permalink)
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^ Kentonbomb is worse at that. I swear he secretly loves him.

Anyway with how big this Ambrose obsession is now (members having Ambrose in their usernames really?) I don't want to imagine how bad this forum is going to be when he finally debuts. It will be worse than the Bryan obsession this forum has had for months and months. At least when he finally debuts, I'll be able to properly judge him. But this crazy fanboy brigade of his at the moment is really annoying and it's putting unnecessarily high expectations on the guy.
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I think it will be this CM Punk/ Heyman angle. I hope so, he will create more of a splash riding on their coat tails for a while till he can gain enough momentum to take off. i'm drawn back to the "secret weapon" comment.

also, yes HHH is big on him, paul heyman even more so. and William Regal is always raving about him. and jim ross thinks highly of him too.

he has a lot of backing so he has to be good.
I'm glad you brought up the secret weapon comment. Punk made that comment back when there was a show in Lowell before the No Way Out ppv. It was in May when Punk and Heyman traded those cryptic tweets about people not knowing what was coming.

I know it's outrageous to think of WWE having the brain to pull of an in depth storyline connecting them in that way. Where Punk was referring to Ambrose as he and Heyman's secret weapon, but I wouldn't be surprised if Punk and Heyman had enough of a brain to think that way. I know there will be those who will say "Heyman wasn't under contract," but it's possible Punk and Heyman may have brought the idea to the higher ups attention by then.

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^ Kentonbomb is worse at that. I swear he secretly loves him.

Anyway with how big this Ambrose obsession is now (members having Ambrose in their usernames really?) I don't want to imagine how bad this forum is going to be when he finally debuts. It will be worse than the Bryan obsession this forum has had for months and months. At least when he finally debuts, I'll be able to properly judge him. But this crazy fanboy brigade of his at the moment is really annoying and it's putting unnecessarily high expectations on the guy.
Some of us aren`t THAT crazed Nos, I`m sure you understand that, but if anything we recognize that he has talent and potential. Most of us want something new and Ambrose brings that, he can wrestle, talk and sells moves really well. I am as tired as anyone else with people mentioning Ambrose in threads that have nothing to do with him and I`m a fan. It`s like KO Bossy recently proving that Bryan marks drag his name in to almost every thread. This is the appropriate and designated thread for Ambrose talk until he debuts.

Also it`s one thing to like the guy and hope he debuts and another to act like he`s the second coming. I recently got back in to wrestling again so I haven`t dealt with as much disappointment as some of these guys have, which is why I don`t even sweat his debut right now. I feel the same way about Bray Wyatt, for the record.
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Just curious why you hate Tyrion so much lol. its funny every thread i see him post in you're right behind ready to dispute anything.
I don't really hate him or anyone on this forum. I don't think he's a troll like so many do. The guy believes what he preaches. It's just I think he's wrong on many accounts. I think he is overly pessimistic. And I think he's a hypocrite as well. That's all. I don't disagree w/ everything he says. But w/ the things I do disagree w/ him about, I will lay it on strong just as he does.

Just for the sake of discussion, who do you want to see Ambrose feud w/ when he debuts? My pick is still Kane.
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