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post #2381 of 3754 (permalink) Old 08-11-2012, 03:17 PM
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Re: Dean Ambrose Pre-Debut Discussion Thread

I will concede that I can almost tolerate him more than the Big Show. Because at least Kane isn't being shoved down our throats and his promos, no matter how tacky and fake, don't revolve around the same tired idea.
Seriously, go look at each one of Big Show's heel turns and I guarentee that in every one of his interminable promos you'll find something to the effect of I'm a big scary giant. Every - fucking - time.

And it bugs me, because eventually Ambrose is going to come up against these kinds of stale, overpushed guys and just be expected to look weak. I love WWE, but when talented guys are constantly upstaged by nonentities like Kane and Big Show it makes me want to vomit.
Honestly, Punk being anywhere near Big Show has turned me off the character entirely. The same will happen if Ambrose is paired with Kane.

Would you believe that I actually preferred Issac Yankem to the Kane character? At least it was fun.
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Would people prefer Ambrose to have vignettes? Or would you prefer to be totally surprised when he turns up? Personally, the latter. But the guy cuts such a damn good promo, maybe hearing from him before he turns up would be good too.

Either way wish they'd HURRY UP with it.

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Would people prefer Ambrose to have vignettes? Or would you prefer to be totally surprised when he turns up? Personally, the latter. But the guy cuts such a damn good promo, maybe hearing from him before he turns up would be good too.

Either way wish they'd HURRY UP with it.
If he's booked as a loose cannon, then i'd rather he debut in a surprising manner. Not specifically randomly interfering in a match or something. But just something unpredictable. I think vignettes would take away from his unpredictable nature because it would be quite predictable.

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I've said it once and I'll say it again, Kane is untalented. He does this whole monster gimmick, but it comes off as fake and tacky.
The guys who make it work, and yes, I'll include Ambrose in that list, cement their character via good promo work. But Kane comes across as totally fake, I mean, he is so awful I actually make a concious effort to never watch any match he's in.

Remember his feud with The Undertaker? Week after fucking week we put up with these God awful promos where, to aid his pathetic gimmick, they used red mood lighting and actually played this stupid music whilst he talked.

Everything about the guy is hokey. Guys like Ambrose, Foley, Raven, Jake Roberts, they were able to make us believe they were monsters without all those shortcuts, without being booked to look unstoppable. Ambrose needs to feud with someone who can bring something to the table, Kane can't.

I honestly believe that the only reason anyone still champions this overrated hack is because of nostalgia, you all loved his 1997 run so much it never dawned on you that he's been on a downward spiral ever since. No, you just let the past continue to dictate your opinions on the guy, I'm sick of it and if he's connected with Ambrose in ANY way, I won't watch his debut, his promos or anything else he does. Kane is useless and needs to go away, everyone he feuds with looks weaker afterwards.
1. Kane's promo work in 2010 was some of the best in his career.
2. Kane is one of the best big men workers in WWE history. The guy is one of the strongest guys in the company while still being a one of the more agile big men you will ever see.
3. So the fact that he he has had a good spot on the roster for 15 years means his career has been in a downward spiral? Please.
4. Kane was given a character to work w/ and has done wonders w/ it. Why would he still be in WWE for 15 years if he sucks as much as you say he does it?
5. Have his matches w/ Punk, Bryan, Cena, Orton, Sheamus sucked recently. If you say, then you obviously set your standards too high.
6. Kane's not a monster? He's 7ft tall. Whether you think so or not, he looks more like a monster than anyone you mentioned. Plus, he plays the monster character to perfection w/ his manneurisms and his actions.


Keeping w/ Kane, I think he would be the perfect first opponent for Ambrose. Would the matches be five star classics. No, but the storytelling and the promos would be cool. I would like to see a story where Ambrose debuts and goes right after Kane. Going w/ the guy I just responded to, Ambrose would accuse Kane of not being a real monster. That he only thinks he is a monster b/c he's 7ft tall and 300 pounds. Ambrose would state that he is a real monster b/c of his mind. In the next few weeks, Ambrose would begin to stalk Kane, trying to scare him. This all leads to a PPV match where Kane puts Ambrose over, Or somekind of DQ finish and Ambrose goes over on a later date.

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Aj should debut him as a ex boyfriend of hers or somethin along those lines and have him feud with a developing face bryan


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If he's booked as a loose cannon, then i'd rather he debut in a surprising manner. Not specifically randomly interfering in a match or something. But just something unpredictable. I think vignettes would take away from his unpredictable nature because it would be quite predictable.
There is a way they could have him have vignettes as a loose cannon. They can do my idea, and use tout to get him over. Have him make these weird video's like he's "coming to change the WWE landscape," and "the WWE better be ready." They should even mention the video's, just keep playing them every week with the other tout video's. That way, he get's over but not the natural way. Instead he's using a different platform to get himself noticed. Have that play out for a few weeks. Than eventually WWE could notice and comment on the video's, just to get a much larger group of people to notice him. Than have a video saying he'll be there next week.

Or, they could have him have video's where he has a handheld camera. I've always had a thought of them having him do video's similar to the video where The Joker has the fake Batman hostage.



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I can't wait for this guy to debut.
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Aj should debut him as a ex boyfriend of hers or somethin along those lines and have him feud with a developing face bryan
Dont think DB is turning face anytime soon.

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Re: Dean Ambrose Pre-Debut Discussion Thread

this guy was only 22 when he had cut this promo. He's really that damn good if he isn't restricted. A modern day piper reincarnated right here. What we saw yesterday shows that that piper's mic skills are dead

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This guy is being wasted. I hope WWE releases him before they ruin his career and then he is hired by TNA.

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