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post #2371 of 3754 (permalink) Old 08-08-2012, 07:25 PM
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Yep, and with every page goes a little bit more hope that he's gonna be on my TV anytime soon.
Patience is a virtue my friend .

Even though many people are growing angrier and angrier every week he doesn't debut, it's not the right time. We're two weeks away from WWE's 2nd biggest PPV of the year. Why would they debut him weeks before a show where he just get lost in the build up? It wouldn't make sense.

I see him debuting some point after Summerslam in the fall, like Del Rio in 2010.

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If it's the Raw right after Summerslam, fine, that was how del rio came on the scene, but he got vignettes, although that was cause he was catapulted into the main event and forced down our throats. I'm fine with Ambrose not being in the ME right away, although with his talent I'm sure it won't be too long before we find him there. If he doesn't debut after Summerslam, or vignettes don't start or whatever, i'm done with this wishful thinking.

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If it's the Raw right after Summerslam, fine, that was how del rio came on the scene, but he got vignettes, although that was cause he was catapulted into the main event and forced down our throats. I'm fine with Ambrose not being in the ME right away, although with his talent I'm sure it won't be too long before we find him there. If he doesn't debut after Summerslam, or vignettes don't start or whatever, i'm done with this wishful thinking.
The night after SSlam would be a good time, as some of the most watched Raws are the ones the night after a PPV, espcially one of the big four. Obviously, if it were the night after Summerslam, Ambrose would have some kind of suprise debut like coming out of the crowd or something.

Again, we just have to be patient. WWE was obviously wanted to debut him against Mick Foley, but that fell apart for one reason or another. So it's clear that Ambrose has supporters in the WWE office. He will debut in the very near future. If they wanted to hold off his debut so long, they would have just put him on NXT like they did everyone else in FCW. He will be coming soon.

The 1000th episode has passed. Raw 1001 in his hometown has passed. Raw 1000 would have been a bad place for him to debut b/c he would have been overshadowed by all of the legends. Raw 1001 would have gotten him a good pop, but he's a heel so they wouldn't want him to get a big pop. I'm not really anticipating his debut anymore. I'm just enjoying the WWE product. When it's time for Ambrose to come up, great. But I'm not going to be dissapointed every week that goes by. When he finally does make his debut or when that first vignette is aired, it will be that much better b/c I won't be expecting it.

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I'll be so disappointed if he isn't on the roster by the time I go see Raw on November 5th. Only consolation will be if he does a dark match.
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Have you guys notice Dean Ambrose has a Tout!! doesn't have video yet but shows that he'll definitely debut

Superman (ryack) VS The Joker (ambrose) !!! make it happen ;D

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oooooooh Dean!!!

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Let this be a lesson to up and coming talent in the WWE don't try and be great like the Rock or Stone Cold. WWE isn't the same...

A lesson Dean Ambrose and all his fans will learn in the coming months sadly.

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Maybe a debut at Summerslam. Interfere in Kane vs DB. Help DB win and he can fued with Kane. But Sheen is probs gonna end up costing DB the match.

Back to Ambrose. If he was to fued with Kane he could say Kanes gone soft and now that he is now the devils favorite demon. Just an idea
I've said it once and I'll say it again, Kane is untalented. He does this whole monster gimmick, but it comes off as fake and tacky.
The guys who make it work, and yes, I'll include Ambrose in that list, cement their character via good promo work. But Kane comes across as totally fake, I mean, he is so awful I actually make a concious effort to never watch any match he's in.

Remember his feud with The Undertaker? Week after fucking week we put up with these God awful promos where, to aid his pathetic gimmick, they used red mood lighting and actually played this stupid music whilst he talked.

Everything about the guy is hokey. Guys like Ambrose, Foley, Raven, Jake Roberts, they were able to make us believe they were monsters without all those shortcuts, without being booked to look unstoppable. Ambrose needs to feud with someone who can bring something to the table, Kane can't.

I honestly believe that the only reason anyone still champions this overrated hack is because of nostalgia, you all loved his 1997 run so much it never dawned on you that he's been on a downward spiral ever since. No, you just let the past continue to dictate your opinions on the guy, I'm sick of it and if he's connected with Ambrose in ANY way, I won't watch his debut, his promos or anything else he does. Kane is useless and needs to go away, everyone he feuds with looks weaker afterwards.
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Let this be a lesson to up and coming talent in the WWE don't try and be great like the Rock or Stone Cold. WWE isn't the same...

A lesson Dean Ambrose and all his fans will learn in the coming months sadly.
We'll just have to wait and see but I don't think anyone expect him to be like The Rock and Stone Cold.

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I've said it once and I'll say it again, Kane is untalented. He does this whole monster gimmick, but it comes off as fake and tacky.
The guys who make it work, and yes, I'll include Ambrose in that list, cement their character via good promo work. But Kane comes across as totally fake, I mean, he is so awful I actually make a concious effort to never watch any match he's in.
I wouldn't call Kane untalented. But in reference to his monster character being fake and tacky, well each to their own I guess. Kane in the last couple of years has been pretty stale and dried out. Then again how could it be any better with all the years of mistreatment by WWE management, a glorified jobber and terrible booking.

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Remember his feud with The Undertaker? Week after fucking week we put up with these God awful promos where, to aid his pathetic gimmick, they used red mood lighting and actually played this stupid music whilst he talked.
The mood lightening and music was actually pretty unique, even if it was a bit silly. But as for the promos, some people regard those promos as arguably his best mic work in his career. I won't agree or disagree because it's all subjective, but I didn't think they were all that bad.

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Everything about the guy is hokey. Guys like Ambrose, Foley, Raven, Jake Roberts, they were able to make us believe they were monsters without all those shortcuts, without being booked to look unstoppable. Ambrose needs to feud with someone who can bring something to the table, Kane can't.
Kane admittedly is a generic monster, not much different from most big guy monster types. However monsters can come in all shapes and sizes, depending on the creator and what traits a wrestler carries. Kane in his own right can claim to be a monster because of his size and look. He fits the description of a monster from a horror movie, like Jason from Friday 13th or Leatherface from Texas Chainsaw massarce. Naturally being booked as unstoppable comes with the territory for a guy like Kane. However the difference between Kane and every other generic monster is he actually made his gimmick work unlike a lot of them which don't really work out as planned.

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I honestly believe that the only reason anyone still champions this overrated hack is because of nostalgia, you all loved his 1997 run so much it never dawned on you that he's been on a downward spiral ever since. No, you just let the past continue to dictate your opinions on the guy, I'm sick of it and if he's connected with Ambrose in ANY way, I won't watch his debut, his promos or anything else he does. Kane is useless and needs to go away, everyone he feuds with looks weaker afterwards.
Actually it's been apparent to me for a long time that Kane's career was terrible, and a joke. However in my defense of Kane, Kane 1997-2003 was great. Even with all the shitty storylines and tag teams he was in he was still a beast to watch. I suppose some might still like him for nostalgic purposes but true fans continue to support a wrestler no matter what, he has a dedicated fanbase.

Personally I don't really care if he retires tomorrow, he's just like Big Show now. But I won't say him being in WWE is unjustified either. He's a vetern, and can still be of use in putting people over because a win over Kane still means something.

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I've said it once and I'll say it again, Kane is untalented. He does this whole monster gimmick, but it comes off as fake and tacky.
The guys who make it work, and yes, I'll include Ambrose in that list, cement their character via good promo work. But Kane comes across as totally fake, I mean, he is so awful I actually make a concious effort to never watch any match he's in.

Remember his feud with The Undertaker? Week after fucking week we put up with these God awful promos where, to aid his pathetic gimmick, they used red mood lighting and actually played this stupid music whilst he talked.

Everything about the guy is hokey. Guys like Ambrose, Foley, Raven, Jake Roberts, they were able to make us believe they were monsters without all those shortcuts, without being booked to look unstoppable. Ambrose needs to feud with someone who can bring something to the table, Kane can't.

I honestly believe that the only reason anyone still champions this overrated hack is because of nostalgia, you all loved his 1997 run so much it never dawned on you that he's been on a downward spiral ever since. No, you just let the past continue to dictate your opinions on the guy, I'm sick of it and if he's connected with Ambrose in ANY way, I won't watch his debut, his promos or anything else he does. Kane is useless and needs to go away, everyone he feuds with looks weaker afterwards.
Yes Kane is a little over the hill but ^he does usually put over young and upcoming talent that's why I suggested Kane.

Foley bitched out. Marella is probably feuding with Cesaro by the look of things. So who else is there for him to fued with?

Ps I still haven't forgiven Kane for burying Ryder.

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