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Old 08-03-2012, 08:53 AM   #2281 (permalink)
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:54 AM   #2282 (permalink)
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Ok, I love Ambrose, but this has gotten out of hand at this point. All you're doing is turning people against him because there's no way to live up to expectations like this. How is he going to change the WWE? Because his character is a little out there? Even CM Punk couldn't change the WWE, and Dean Ambrose is damn sure no CM Punk. Hell, Ambrose is not even better than Sandow, much less being some kind of demi-god that he's being portrayed as by half of the IWC.
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really because last time i checked drew had a credible look, he also isn't balding and he weighs over 250 pounds and he can actually wrestle.
lol drew mcintyre won't even glimpse the main event in his career. he's a nobody, no charisma, boring look, boring in the ring, just plain trash.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:29 AM   #2284 (permalink)
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I'm starting to cringe at all this hype. When is the last time a promising talent debuted and was consistently booked to be a reliably interesting, captivating part of the show? Now ask yourself, do you really want Dean Ambrose to debut now? In this climate? Okay. But you have to be honest: it's going to be a disappointment any way you cut it.
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I want him to play Daniel Bryan's brother.
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Alot of people are praising this guy ont he forums, I am just waiting to see how quickly people will all turn their back on him like they have many other WWE stars. As for my personal opinion I wont judge him until I see him, his previous work was good but that counts for nothing until you appear on Raw or Smackdown. Just hope thye make good use of him WWE havent been doing a good job with dominant heels over the last few years
Me too. I can't wait for him to debut. As soon as he makes his debut, fans will forget about him.
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Me too. I can't wait for him to debut. As soon as he makes his debut, fans will forget about him.

Well, call me optimist but am hoping that Dean Ambrose would do to WWE what Austin did in 1996. But as some of you pointed out, hope he does not fizzle out like the last few talented debuts.
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I can't believe he still hasn't debuted yet. Wonder what's the hold up.
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Give it time, they're waiting on a long term storyline for him. You don't want them to rush it, get fed to Cena and relegate to Superstars do you?
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Ambrose's spot on the card is actually irrelevant. Look at Sandow, he's not in a feud yet he's given enough exposure to make him perhaps the most watchable wrestler on the roster.
The best comparison I can make in terms of expectations is with Mankind in 1996, here was a guy who wasn't going after the title but he was given the freedom to get his character over. Via squash matches, a definitive rival to play off and ample promo time, Mankind quickly established himself as the best heel on the roster.

Ambrose needs to be treated similarly. Don't feed him title shots or elevate him to the main event.
All he needs is the following:

- A specific wrestler to feud with. Somone who compliments his style and the fans care about. Honestly, I'm partial to Ryback for this honour, give them at least one Falls Count Anywhere match on a PPV and I think the fans could really get invested in both men. This would also have the added advantage of making fans respect Ryback as more than just a Goldberg clone.

- A memorable, unique theme. The Ambrose character is a nihilistic, deranged lunatic. He should NOT have rock music.

- He CAN NOT be booked as a coward. Every fan knows that there are many kind of heels and Ambrose is the most interesting type - the crazy guy. He needs to be presented as an irredeemable sicko, sure. But he can't just run away from the faces. The guy is a mentalist, he simply doesn't care about his own safety.

- No title shots. At least for a while. It's a problem in wrestling when a guy comes in and is spoonfed opportunities, I call it the "Lex Luger Syndrome", a talent is hyped, pushed to the moon but the fans don't respect him - as because they don't respect him they don't give a shit about his matches. We've seen it happen with both Drew McIntyre and Alberto Del Rio. Whilst Ambrose is more charismatic than both these examples, he still has to 'pay his dues' to ingratiate himself to the average viewer. Hell, even tie it into his character. Ambrose doesn't care about titles anyway, he's a sadist.

And there you go, I think if WWE think along these lines they will allow Ambrose to have a lengthy career, instead of a big bang followed by a quick fizzle. It's a simple concept, don't shove him down our throats but give him enough match and promo time to show us his gimmick.
Men like Jake Roberts existed during a similarly bland era of invincible faces, yet they used those confines to become legendary heels. Whilst Ambrose will probably never be on the level of a CM Punk or Randy Orton. I truly believe he can become the kind of heel that fans talk about for years when discussing wrestlings most memorable bad guys.
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