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Old 07-25-2012, 10:13 PM   #2031 (permalink)
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I'd love to be proven wrong on that. Maybe they'll send someone to step up to the plate when they get their game together as well.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:35 PM   #2032 (permalink)
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Oh, I completely agree with all that you said. And I think most casuals would lap it up no matter how the company apparently perceives most of its fanbases' intelligence. I don't, however, doubt that the company has fears over the sort of material could be used in the feud (ie: fearful that people won't remember or care about Foley's earlier career, which appears to be the motive behind Ambrose's stinging retorts). Better yet, I also hold concerns over if they would want (or wrongfully perceive) anything that may overshadow their main event scene or main players. Take into account how sterile and 'safe' (Attitude Era-lite in some cases) most of the programs have been and that doesn't exactly form the recipe for addressing the 'taboos' as you pointed out.

That's the sort of thing that really holds back wrestling for me and others who want a little more bang for their buck. Take for example that Bray Wyatt character. I honestly cannot see him having any real feud or program of substance nowadays if on the main programs due to how his character has some legs which are established outside the wrestling ring. Furthermore, I can't even think of any current personalities he could work with that would be complimentative or has relevance to his character. You'll probably see him in eight months involved in some singing rodeo skit or transforming back into Husky Harris with an accentuated drawl.

I have my doubts Foley would puss out on such a subject. He's been involved in the wrestling industry too long for me to believe he's as soft as those reports make him out to be.
I think so too. He's been in the business a long time, so a guy like that knows how to play the fans. As well as that, he stated in his blog that he went to management about the issue to get Ambrose to keep his family out of it or something, and Ambrose ignored his request and wrote about Foley in a wheelchair on twitter, and something about his kids. I don't think Ambrose would be foolish enough to ignore something like that, if he was told to cut it out i'm sure he'd do it, as to not piss anyone off. Especially a legend like Mick Foley.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:53 PM   #2033 (permalink)
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Fair enough.

Unless he debuts next week in his home town, though, which would be odd because we've had no vignettes or anything to signal that, I think it's going to be a LONG time. Probably not until April when WrestleMania is over and the new talent usually comes in, and no, that's completely unacceptable, but if they don't do it next week, he'll be stuck in FCW for months. He's not gonna debut after SummerSlam or in Chicago, they had an opportunity to do it on the 1000'th Raw, they said new talent will debut on the 1000'th Raw and they lied, like they always do. The only reason I'm even holding out the slightest hope that he debuts next week is it's in his home town, and maybe they think that the new talent should come in during "the new era", which Raw 1001 unofficially is. But once Monday comes and he still doesn't show up, it's going to be a long wait, and that'll prove once and for all where they stand on him as a talent. Longer than necessary by far and a complete waste of talent. By the end of the year, if he's not in a big angle it'll be an absolute travesty.


Oh my god. "They said new talent will debut on the 1000'th Raw and they lied, like they always do." Are you fucking kidding me. For the last time, AN INTERNET REPORT (not WWE) said that WWE was contemplating debuting new talent on the 1000th episode. Let me say it again, an INTERNET REPORT. There was not one time WWE said on TV, on their website, or anywhere else that they were absoulutely going to debut new talent. That might be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen someone write on this forum. Don't blame WWE b/c you got your hopes up over something that they never confirmed.

I was one of the guys hoping he would debut on the 1000th episode. But after the show was over, I realized I was dead wrong. He would have come out from nowhere, the crowd would be shocked, and then 10 minutes later The Undertaker or The Rock and everyone would have forgotten about Ambrose instantly.

I want to see him debut next week, I just want to see him debut. But if Ambrose (who still isn't known by the casual WWE fans) isn't part of a "huge angle" by the end of the year, believe it or not, it won't be an absolute travesty. Lets hope Ambrose has a good spot on TV every week by the end of the year.

Again, your hatred for WWE is just ridiculous. Don't bitch b/c you read something online on a WWE spoiler site and (shockingly) it didn't come true.
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Oh my god. "They said new talent will debut on the 1000'th Raw and they lied, like they always do." Are you fucking kidding me. For the last time, AN INTERNET REPORT (not WWE) said that WWE was contemplating debuting new talent on the 1000th episode. Let me say it again, an INTERNET REPORT. There was not one time WWE said on TV, on their website, or anywhere else that they were absoulutely going to debut new talent. That might be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen someone write on this forum. Don't blame WWE b/c you got your hopes up over something that they never confirmed.

I was one of the guys hoping he would debut on the 1000th episode. But after the show was over, I realized I was dead wrong. He would have come out from nowhere, the crowd would be shocked, and then 10 minutes later The Undertaker or The Rock and everyone would have forgotten about Ambrose instantly.

I want to see him debut next week, I just want to see him debut. But if Ambrose (who still isn't known by the casual WWE fans) isn't part of a "huge angle" by the end of the year, believe it or not, it won't be an absolute travesty. Lets hope Ambrose has a good spot on TV every week by the end of the year.

Again, your hatred for WWE is just ridiculous. Don't bitch b/c you read something online on a WWE spoiler site and (shockingly) it didn't come true.
No, they actually put it in an early press release for Raw 1000 somewhere.

WWE DOES lie. A lot. I can't even count the amount of times they've advertised something and then they change it.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:22 PM   #2035 (permalink)
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No, they actually put it in an early press release for Raw 1000 somewhere.

WWE DOES lie. A lot. I can't even count the amount of times they've advertised something and then they change it.
http://www.wrestlingnewssource.com/n...ig-Summer-Ang/

Or maybe this one:

http://pwmania.com/wwe-1000th-raw-tr...s#.UBDEumGm_Aw

Or maybe even this one:

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...Storyline.html

This is where you saw that WWE was "looking to debut new talent. And what do all of these links have in common? They are pro wrestling SPOILER sites. They are reports. They aren't press releases from WWE at all. And all these reports said that WWE was again, "looking to debut new talent." That's not exactly a guarentee. Don't blame WWE b/c something you and many other people read on a spoiler site was wrong (like they are half the time anyway).
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I didn't read it from a spoiler site, they put out an early release on the show that said it was going to happen.

Whatever, this is an absolutely pointless discussion.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:43 PM   #2037 (permalink)
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I didn't read it from a spoiler site, they put out an early release on the show that said it was going to happen.

Whatever, this is an absolutely pointless discussion.
When has WWE ever put out a press relase for the viewing public saying their going to debut new talent? They put out press relases taling about expanding to 3 hours and their social media push and things of that nature. But when has WWE ever said out loud to the public "hey fans were going to debut new talent on this show"? That's right, they never have. They do it through vignettes or suprise debuts. Again, I guarentee anything you read about WWE debuting new talents on the 1000th episode was from a spoiler site or was copied and pasted from a spoiler site.

Whatever, I know I'm right and you think you're right. There is no need to continue this.

To get back to positive note: I wonder what his finisher will be? Don't know why, but I'm thinking Double Arm DDT. Hey, it's not like McIntyre is using it anymore.
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I remember there was a rumor that said new talent would debut at 1000, but that was just dirt sheet speculation I think. I have a feeling he will be a fall debut. But he should be on the roster already though.
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He'll debut to get squashed by Ryback or Funkasaurus. The butthurt in here will be glorious.
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Next person to come in here asking why Dean Ambrose is so hyped/what's the big deal:

Learn to fucking use YouTube/Google.

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