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Old 07-22-2012, 10:27 PM   #1941 (permalink)
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Before getting pushed to the title, yes, but everybody needs a push of some kind to get over. Nobody gets super over as a jobber and gets pushed as a result.

No, they couldn't. There isn't one person on that list who has anywhere near the star power of Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Jeff Hardy, Sting and Kurt Angle. It's all about marketing and putting money into the product.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:33 PM   #1942 (permalink)
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Future shouldn't be in the hands of the fans, This is why WWE doesn't listen to the IWC, they would go broke.
Simple formula in this business, if you get the fans support, whether live or online (live means more), you will get somewhere in this business. Even Zack Ryder even though he is a jobber now, he was at least a one time US champion, which is more than other people in the company can say.

If the live fans hadn't started cheering Punk crazy after his first "Pipebomb", it wouldn't have meant a damn thing.

Eventually Dean Ambrose will debut on TV. Whether it's tommorrow, next week, or a month from now. Even if he plays his character as well as he did in FCW, that's only half of the job. If the crowd doesn't respond, whether positively or negatively, none of it will matter.

So, the future or how big a star can become IS in the hands of the fans.

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Old 07-22-2012, 11:13 PM   #1943 (permalink)
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Simple formula in this business, if you get the fans support, whether live or online (live means more), you will get somewhere in this business. Even Zack Ryder even though he is a jobber now, he was at least a one time US champion, which is more than other people in the company can say.

If the live fans hadn't started cheering Punk crazy after his first "Pipebomb", it wouldn't have meant a damn thing.

Eventually Dean Ambrose will debut on TV. Whether it's tommorrow, next week, or a month from now. Even if he plays his character as well as he did in FCW, that's only half of the job. If the crowd doesn't respond, whether positively or negatively, none of it will matter.

So, the future or how big a star can become IS in the hands of the fans.
Yeah, when I said that I meant that in a mocking way.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:55 AM   #1944 (permalink)
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Well christian is defending the IC championship against an unnamed opponent tonight do you think it's ambrose?
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:31 AM   #1945 (permalink)
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Well christian is defending the IC championship against an unnamed opponent tonight do you think it's ambrose?
Nah i don't think it will be Ambrose just yet, i wish it would be but i don't think WWE will throw him in a title picture on his Raw debut.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:34 AM   #1946 (permalink)
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Today is the day people. PLEASE DEBUT THIS MAN TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:54 AM   #1947 (permalink)
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I've said it in other threads, i hope its not tonight, they should have started with a bigger build up for him if so, teasing vids etc etc a couple of weeks ago.. missed a big opportunity if they just give him a random match tonight.. casual fans will not know of him or his foley twitter arguement, if he interupts Foley at somepoint for a debut tonight.

Shoulda been a jerichoesque tease and build up.. The Revolution vids they had for the game would have been a better idea..
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:39 AM   #1948 (permalink)
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^ Yeah, i tend to agree, just been reading around the forums, i had thought tonight should be the debut, but like you say there is no build. One positive is that there isn't the hype around him with the casuals and expectation levels, at least this way he can enter with a suprise. They have to get this right though, no lame debut with small consequences.
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LOL @ not caring if the fans care about Ambrose, what a joke. I enjoy the wrestlers I like getting great receptions. I don't like guys based on that, but getting the fans to care about the character is a big reason pushes continue. D-Bry would have been in the mid-card after Extreme Rules if he wasn't over. Pushes may not start if the fans don't care about you, but they sure as hell do continue based on it.

Del Rio seems to be the only exception for that rule.

Ambrose doesn't need a world title, at least not anywhere near his initial push. His whole character is based off of not caring about title, it was the same way with his indy character. He didn't want the titles, but he won them anyway just to prove that he could.

I hope he comes out during Foley's part of the show, I hope the end of that feud was just to throw everybody off.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:00 PM   #1950 (permalink)
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I do hope he comes out and insults the legends. That would be pretty awesome, and instant heat that'll last him forever. People don't get over that stuff easy.
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