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Old 07-16-2012, 02:13 PM   #1821 (permalink)
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First off, holy shit, you're post count.

Second, I think if he becomes that good in the E and is putting on the best matches or best promo's every night, the crowd will force WWE to push them. ie. CM Punk and Bryan and (a little bit) of Ryder.
The crowd doesn't force Vince to push anyone. Look at Christian and Rob Van Dam. Yeah, they won a world title, a fast, cheap, uncredible title win, and it took them circumstances that if they hadn't happened, they never would've gotten those runs. They got almost nothing for their overness, in fact, they did get nothing for their overness because it wasn't their overness that got them pushed, it was other things.

Is Ambrose a future World Heavyweight Champion? For whatever the fuck that midcard world title is worth, yes, probably. Everybody except Barrett is gonna hold that title at some point in the future.

Is he a future WWE Champion? Most likely no.

Is he a future HUGE star? Most likely no.

Is that his fault? 100% no.

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That's a pretty ass-backwards statement dude, no matter how little you think about in-ring work. The fact is, the WWE appreciate in-ring work the same as promo work or guys like Bryan and Ziggler wouldn't be current/future main-eventers. There needs to be a solid balance for wrestling to be great. They can't just trot out Miz clones and except people to love it, or they would go out of business. Both Ziggler and Bryan being main-eventers proves that the WWE actually DOES appreciate awesomeness.
Yeah, they appreciate in ring awesomeness, not general awesomeness. The problem is, in ring work is NOT entertaining, in ring work does NOT sell tickets, and the foundation of the WWE, what makes stars, real, giant stars, is mic skills, charisma, and stage presence. A formula they have completely thrown out the window, which is why the ratings are down, nobody watches anymore and after the network fails and costs them millions, along with their failures in pushing talent and with Vince getting older and increasingly reducing his role, their marketing will go to shit and they'll probably be out of business in 10 to 15 years.

Balance, you say? There is NO balance. It's 100% wrestling ability now, everybody is fucking BORING. They don't push people who can talk anymore, they just don't do it. This era SUCKS. Dean Malenko would be a world champion in today's WWE. Sad. They need a revamp of their strategy.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:54 PM   #1822 (permalink)
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Dean Malenko would be a world champion in today's WWE. Sad.
Are you from Bizarro World? Your take on the current situation seems to be 100% the opposite reality. Right now things are the same as always in the WWE: the people who have made it either have gotten over with the fans with their charisma (Bryan, Punk), or who happen to have "the look" (Sheamus, Del Rio). Bryan has only been in the ME picture for so long now because he has routinely got the biggest reactions out of anyone not named John Cena. Before Bryan was getting these reactions, he was a midcarder, and then a cowardly heel champion booked to look weak. If anything, the only thing that WWE has done better than in some previous years, is allowing wrestlers who have gotten over under the radar to be rewarded for it.

Also, I can't believe you seriously implied Dean Malenko being World Champion would be a bad thing.
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You know what will be cool. If they used the Tout thing to debut Dean Ambrose. They can have him cut a promo every week, so people will get to know who he is.
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You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

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Anyone think Ambrose debuts next week by crashing the Bryan/AJ wedding?
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:17 PM   #1825 (permalink)
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Yeah, Ambrose could upload a really weird and ominous Tout next week and then debut in his home town on Raw 1001.
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Anyone think Ambrose debuts next week by crashing the Bryan/AJ wedding?
No, why would they debut an unknown to the casuals right into a feud with Bryan? they'd be like "who the hell is that?" No, my guess is they'll do vignettes and build his debut up to get the crowd used to him.
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Yeah, Ambrose could upload a really weird and ominous Tout next week and then debut in his home town on Raw 1001.
I really think it would be a really good idea. Have Dean Ambrose cut these promo's on Tout during RAW. It'll be a very easy way to get his character over without the usual debut video's, it'll be very unique and different.

I've also always had this fascination with Dean Ambrose having promo's like the camcorder video in Dark Knight than involved The Joker and the faux Batman. Have him just cutting promo's on different people on poster's and such, acting very strange and mysterious. Than he'll turn the camera around to his face, "hi, I'm Dean Ambrose."
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You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

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No, why would they debut an unknown to the casuals right into a feud with Bryan? they'd be like "who the hell is that?" No, my guess is they'll do vignettes and build his debut up to get the crowd used to him.
If WWE is turning Bryan face again, it would be a great way to introduce Ambrose. Picture it like this: Bryan and AJ are about to kiss and the lights go out. They come back on, and the ring is trashed. Ambrose is in the ring, and Bryan is out. AJ is shocked.

Again, if Bryan is turning face, this would be a great way to introduce Ambrose. The crowd would be pissed there was no kiss and Ambrose would draw some good heat. Not every great star needs to be introduced w/ vignettes. Sometimes the suprise debut is just as good or even better.
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Naaah. I could see him costing Punk the title next week though. How else is Punk going to lose to Cena? They absolutely cannot give Cena the clean win since they've built up Punk for the last 9-

What am I saying. WWE will bury anyone to get Cena over. I could see a clean victory for Cena next week
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Here we go.

Next week is the 1000th episode of RAW. Ambrose HAS to debut here or else I start to lose interest in where he shows up because then the Summerslam hype will stat and there will be no way to fit him in. Not saying it has to be with Foley because I think that ship has sailed but he needs to be on that show next Monday. Whether it's interfering in the Bryan/AJ wedding, or costing Punk the match, or feuding with Cena whatever. He needs to be there. Now.
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