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Old 07-16-2012, 12:48 PM   #1811 (permalink)
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If I have to watch every thing he's ever done he cant be that good. If he was so good I could see that from the dozen videos of his I watched. Maybe my opinion will change once he gets brought up to the main roster. Not like my opinion means anything, just saying I dont see it.
It's okay. Ambrose doesn't really need you're support to become a huge star that he's destined to become eventually.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:04 PM   #1812 (permalink)
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Amazing. The Ambrose/Regal feud has been so well done. Loved the ending and can't wait to see Ambrose in WWE.
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Regal put on a real masterclass in that match, tis a shame Regal hasn't been given more opportunity to do likewise on big stage.
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Amazing ending to a perfect storyline Goodbye FCW the place where the ideal of wrestling was still alive hopefully NXT in the coming month will get itself sorted out.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:26 PM   #1815 (permalink)
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I hope Ambrose is going to be used in an awesome way when he debuts, this is something they really shouldnt ruin
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It's okay. Ambrose doesn't really need you're support to become a huge star that he's destined to become eventually.
Don't be so confident. The fact that he's so good will probably hold him back. WWE wants guys like Ziggler and Bryan, they don't appreciate awesomeness anymore.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:37 PM   #1817 (permalink)
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If I have to watch every thing he's ever done he cant be that good. If he was so good I could see that from the dozen videos of his I watched. Maybe my opinion will change once he gets brought up to the main roster. Not like my opinion means anything, just saying I dont see it.
As a response to your first post, I would adivise to watch his promos as opposed to his matches. Ambrose (in my opinion) is pretty good in the ring. Not great but but pretty good. Even though he is not great he makes up for it w/ other thinks like in-ring psychology and his ability to his opponents to look good.

But his in ring skills is not where most of his hype comes from. It comes mostly from his promo work. When he talks, he sounds real not forced. He is great at connecting to the crowd and getting a response from it. That is where most of his hype comes from.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:41 PM   #1818 (permalink)
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Don't be so confident. The fact that he's so good will probably hold him back. WWE wants guys like Ziggler and Bryan, they don't appreciate awesomeness anymore.
First off, holy shit, you're post count.

Second, I think if he becomes that good in the E and is putting on the best matches or best promo's every night, the crowd will force WWE to push them. ie. CM Punk and Bryan and (a little bit) of Ryder.
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Don't be so confident. The fact that he's so good will probably hold him back. WWE wants guys like Ziggler and Bryan, they don't appreciate awesomeness anymore.
That's a pretty ass-backwards statement dude, no matter how little you think about in-ring work. The fact is, the WWE appreciate in-ring work the same as promo work or guys like Bryan and Ziggler wouldn't be current/future main-eventers. There needs to be a solid balance for wrestling to be great. They can't just trot out Miz clones and except people to love it, or they would go out of business. Both Ziggler and Bryan being main-eventers proves that the WWE actually DOES appreciate awesomeness.
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First off, holy shit, you're post count.

Second, I think if he becomes that good in the E and is putting on the best matches or best promo's every night, the crowd will force WWE to push them. ie. CM Punk and Bryan and (a little bit) of Ryder.
The crowd doesn't force Vince to push anyone. Look at Christian and Rob Van Dam. Yeah, they won a world title, a fast, cheap, uncredible title win, and it took them circumstances that if they hadn't happened, they never would've gotten those runs. They got almost nothing for their overness, in fact, they did get nothing for their overness because it wasn't their overness that got them pushed, it was other things.

Is Ambrose a future World Heavyweight Champion? For whatever the fuck that midcard world title is worth, yes, probably. Everybody except Barrett is gonna hold that title at some point in the future.

Is he a future WWE Champion? Most likely no.

Is he a future HUGE star? Most likely no.

Is that his fault? 100% no.

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That's a pretty ass-backwards statement dude, no matter how little you think about in-ring work. The fact is, the WWE appreciate in-ring work the same as promo work or guys like Bryan and Ziggler wouldn't be current/future main-eventers. There needs to be a solid balance for wrestling to be great. They can't just trot out Miz clones and except people to love it, or they would go out of business. Both Ziggler and Bryan being main-eventers proves that the WWE actually DOES appreciate awesomeness.
Yeah, they appreciate in ring awesomeness, not general awesomeness. The problem is, in ring work is NOT entertaining, in ring work does NOT sell tickets, and the foundation of the WWE, what makes stars, real, giant stars, is mic skills, charisma, and stage presence. A formula they have completely thrown out the window, which is why the ratings are down, nobody watches anymore and after the network fails and costs them millions, along with their failures in pushing talent and with Vince getting older and increasingly reducing his role, their marketing will go to shit and they'll probably be out of business in 10 to 15 years.

Balance, you say? There is NO balance. It's 100% wrestling ability now, everybody is fucking BORING. They don't push people who can talk anymore, they just don't do it. This era SUCKS. Dean Malenko would be a world champion in today's WWE. Sad. They need a revamp of their strategy.
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