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Old 06-17-2012, 04:04 PM   #1431 (permalink)
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although i'm not a fan of daniel bryan, i think he's better for the sport than this freak. his gimmick is absolutely terrible. he reminds me of some school shooter. i know he's trying to go for that "i'm psycho" gimmick, but he comes off as a total tool in the process. not only that, but he has the most retarded entrance i've ever seen. you people are delusional if you think this guy will somehow magically improve the overall product. the only people ambrose appeals to (IMO) are losers and people who are crazy as shit themselves.
1) He's supposed to be a tool. He's the heel.

2) Inform me of your personal experiences with school shooters and then tell me the similarities between them and Ambrose. I'm sure you have concrete evidence/personal experience to support your claim right? Right?

3) What entrance? The 10 foot one in FCW where he basically just walks to the ring? Don't even bother talking about theme b/c almost every FCW guy changes their theme on RAW or SD. Have you seen an actual entrance at a House Show? If so, please elaborate on your experience watching him, and explain what you didn't like.

4) Ambrose isn't supposed to appeal to anyone. Once again, he's a heel, and a loner "IDGAF" type heel nonetheless.

5) Would you mind not insulting people in your posts? I can respect the fact that you have a different opinion (and I'm no Ambrose mark, I just think he has potential and want him to debut) but there isn't any reason to insult "us people" for no reason. I don't mean to sound like a hypersensitive D-Bag, but that's uncalled for.
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Old 06-17-2012, 04:06 PM   #1432 (permalink)
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Next we'll hear Ambrose vs Rollins last year was just a horrible match haha!!
Nobody would dare tbh. That was THE best match of that year.
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Yeah, this. I got a feeling something might go down tonight. Not a big feeling, but a slight one.
I dunno, I mean maybe he'll be backstage discussing debut scenarios with Vince or something, but I don't see anyone wrestling tonight that he can immediately place himself in a feud with.
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Nobody would dare tbh. That was THE best match of that year.
That Chris Hero/Rollins hater that posts predominantly in the NXT/FCW section has said that match sucked and was one of the worst matches he's ever seen . So I wouldn't put it past some haters to stoop that low.
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makes me laugh when people say 'i cant understand why your so hyped on this nobody, hes gunna be a jobber blah blah blah'

1, dean has been 'THE MAN' in every indie promotion hes been in, he went to FCW and was so KNOWN already that he became 'THE MAN' in FCW straight away, and why? cuz the guys freaking awesome at what he is doing, his character is a crazy motherfucker, and edgey over the top son of a bitch who will keep you glued to your seat to see what he does next,

these people saying he looks shit are probably related to the people who said stone cold steve austin looked shit when he first debuted, or who said rocky maivia was crap and would be nothing,

your lack of eye for talent is scary,

next you will be telling me/us that seth rollins is gunna be a part of the new generation JOB SQUAD too, pft,
To be fair, I don't think Rollins's ceiling is anywhere near as high as Ambrose's. He's too limited on the mic, so he'll probably have a John Morrison role, whereas Dean could be the top heel in the company, if they don't ruin him (which I wouldn't be surprised if they do. I know Punk said he'll do everything he can to make sure that doesn't happen, but I just don't know with this company).
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To be fair, I don't think Rollins's ceiling is anywhere near as high as Ambrose's. He's too limited on the mic, so he'll probably have a John Morrison role, whereas Dean could be the top heel in the company, if they don't ruin him (which I wouldn't be surprised if they do. I know Punk said he'll do everything he can to make sure that doesn't happen, but I just don't know with this company).
Agreed. We won't know for sure until a couple years from now! If someone like Daniel Bryan can win the world title within 2 years in the company, than observing where Ambrose is 2 years from now should be a good indication of if the company is using him correctly, and taking advantage of his unlimited potential.

Put it this way, Dean Ambrose's potential if he puts on some much needed muscle to look the part of a badass, is a dark version of stone cold Steve Austin. The guy is "that good", seriously, and he doesn't seem to get complacent like CM Punk get's, so he most likely will be the same aggressive passionate trash talker he is right now throughout his WWE career. He reminds me most of a ROH/IWA CM Punk and an ECW/WWF '96 Steve Austin hybrid, where he doesn't give a shit what anybody says, and will stop at nothing to be the biggest star in the company.
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He's nowhere near as good as Austin (in my opinion, I rank Austin above everyone) and I wouldn't rank him near Punk when Punk's at his best, but he's easily (along with Sandow) the best prospect they've had in a while and he could be a huge star, so I hope they don't fuck up with him.

He has to win at least the WHC, I would think. I mean, if a complete loser like Ziggler can do it...
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He's nowhere near as good as Austin (in my opinion, I rank Austin above everyone) and I wouldn't rank him near Punk when Punk's at his best, but he's easily (along with Sandow) the best prospect they've had in a while and he could be a huge star, so I hope they don't fuck up with him.

He has to win at least the WHC, I would think. I mean, if a complete loser like Ziggler can do it...
Maybe not but he's the only guy in the past 12 years that can even hold a candle to the potential that ECW/WWF 96' Austin had. I hate those comparison threads as much as the next guy, but Ambrose is exactly the real deal and I wouldn't laugh off that comparison like I would at an "Orton/Austin" comparison.

Dean Ambrose has a way of capturing the audience in his promos that only guys like The Rock, and Austin could do IMO. I don't know what it is about him, whether it's his wording, diction, passion, or energy, but the guy has that never say die attitude that made Austin so great. Nothing about him gives off a complacent vibe, and he's deadset on making every promo he gives, and any feud he's in, a compelling aura that screams "watch me". If anyone has the potential to capture a generation and unseat Cena as the new face of the company it's Ambrose.
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Put it this way, Dean Ambrose's potential if he puts on some much needed muscle
Why do people think Dean's size is an issue or that he needs to add muscle, have you seen him recently? The guy is absolutely massive.
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Why do people think Dean's size is an issue or that he needs to add muscle, have you seen him recently? The guy is absolutely massive.
I have and think he's about Miz's size now which is good, but I'm thinking about his the perception that the casuals will get. The casuals are what transformed stone cold steve austin into STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN!! I think adding some muscles couldn't hurt him and would help him get over more with the casuals! If he at least got to Austin's size, the casuals could believe him kicking Big Show around like a giant stuffed animal.
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