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Dean Ambrose Pre-Debut Discussion Thread

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
http://www.pwinsider.com/article/67...nfronts-mick-foley-in-wrestlemania-hotel.html

The following video has leaked online, although as to what the purpose is, I can't yet tell you. It features Mick Foley being confronted for what "his generation" did to the wrestling business by WWE developmental talent Dean Ambrose, who had a dark match last night at the Raw taping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZcwPGLqQ9I

A bit of an odd one. Is this legit beef Ambrose has with Foley or worked? If it's the latter then can we read into it that Ambrose will be moving up to the main roster pretty sharpish? Seems a bit too random.

Could Ambrose get onto the main roster and straight into a feud with Foley?

(ps, apologies if thread has already been created, I can't see any threads in the General WWE section due to forum problems)


EDIT: Here is a great recap of the feud so far for those that don't want to read through 20+ pages of us all marking out like little kids. Credit to Beatles123 for this:

Look on the first page.

It started with that vid. Since then, he's been trying to make Foley be exposed as the cause of, as he puts it, "A lost generation" trying to emulate Foley and getting hurt, as well as Dean himself. He had been through countless deathmatches in CZW and injured his body, as well as seeing his friends not survive because of it.

He has posted vids of people injuring themselves doing backyard wrestling and such, as well as posting pica of his scarred body and making it known that he was being told by WWE to go home when he was arriving to debut because of Foley. He feels he's holding him down like HE'S a criminal when Foley is the same thing.

Foley does not want any part of it because Ambrose would not show him respect and not mention his children. in addition to Regal telling Mick to be careful due to his psychological mindgames, Ambrose counters by saying he never did mention them, but Foley IS blinding them to reality. Foley says he can't get into this like Cactus Jack did in 1995 with his "Cane Dewy" promo. not at his age and not with someone he feels can seriously take liberties in the ring. Ambrose mournes the loss of Foley's "Testicular Fortitude" and calls him, in terms he can understand, "The cowardly lion of WWE"

To be continued...
 
#368 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Part of the reason it's so cool is because there's truth to it as well. It makes perfect sense for Ambrose to be pissed off because what he is saying makes sense.

Foley writes about this a lot in his book, when he actually feels slightly pissed off in real life he tries to bring it into storyline so that his promo's come across more real.

A good example of this is when they did the whole 'Beyond The Mat' thing at Royal Rumble and Foley let Rock beat him up pretty bad with a steel chair. Rock was the only one to not go and see if Foley was alright after the match and that really got to Foley. Although he worked with him and they were friends, he never settled or brought that up with The Rock until a good few years after because he wanted that real life emotion when he was planned to turn heel against The Rock leading up to Mania to elevate Rock for Wrestlemania. I reckon somewhere Foley has given Ambrose a bit of advice and said 'let that real emotion out'. Foley would be cool with that 'cos that's exactly what he did, I think that's why a while back Foley tweeted 'I've got the right guy and the right storyline that I want to do'.
 
#376 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I cant wait for him to finally debut, hopefully they wont screw it up. I mean it all seems to be to good to be true so far.
Went to Raw at o2 last night he was in a dark match before superstars against Riley, did a quality promo and this guy has some good moves, looks like he has alot of potential.(Y)
 
#371 ·
Mick Foley claims he can't trust Ambrose to work in the ring

About Dean Ambrose - Look, sports-entertainment has to involve a certain ammount of respect and trust. It's pretty obvious Dean Ambrose doesn't have the slightest ammount of respect for me, and therefore I can't place the slightest ammount of trust in him. Anyone wondering if I'm feeling better following the concussion I spoke of in that promo with Flair? I'm not. I tend to have two types of days when it comes to that muted, under-water feeling I spoke of in that promo - bad and worse. Given my history of concussions, I would have to be an absolute idiot to place my future in the hands of someone I don't trust. Since I like to think I am not an idiot, I won't be placing any trust in him. He had the golden ticket, and he blew it, because he would not honor the simple request I made - to his face - to not include my children in any way in his tweets. If I can't trust him to honor that simple request, I certainly can't trust him not to take liberties in the ring. It's tough to get over in WWE. I certainly wouldn't want to be one of the young guys facing someone like Skip Sheffield (yeah, I know he has a new name, but I don't know it yet) knowing that the priority placed on getting over will be somewhat higher than looking out for the well being of an opponent. I went through that with The Dynamite Kid in 1986, when I was 21 years old. I could do it then. I can't do it at 46..especialy not for someone like Dean Ambrose. To quote the original Willy Wonka movie, "You get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!"
http://mickfoley.typepad.com/mickfo...what-i-had-to-say-1-looks-like-the-new-w.html
 
#373 ·
Re: Mick Foley claims he can't trust Ambrose to work in the ring

Got a feeling Mick is trying to work the smarks here. They're trying to make this as real as possible, I mean just look at Ambrose's response....


Dean Ambrose @TheDeanAmbrose
l never actually insulted Mick's dumb/blind wife or his traumatized ignorant children who think he's a good person. #lostgeneration
 
#377 ·
Re: Mick Foley claims he can't trust Ambrose to work in the ring

Got a feeling Mick is trying to work the smarks here. They're trying to make this as real as possible, I mean just look at Ambrose's response....


Dean Ambrose @TheDeanAmbrose
l never actually insulted Mick's dumb/blind wife or his traumatized ignorant children who think he's a good person. #lostgeneration
Bloody hell! :eek:

I think that's what they're doing too, I mean how any non-smarks will actually be following this, or have even heard about it?
 
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#379 ·
Re: Mick Foley claims he can't trust Ambrose to work in the ring

Jake The Snake v 2.0 vs Mankind is a feud I'd love to see simply because it would be a totally different experience from any other wrestling feud in a long time. It would actually require maturity, subtility where the fans actually have to think about a storyline instead of having everything explained to them like 3 year olds, and psychological depth. I always wanted to have a wrestling feud that was theater material and this is one of those feuds that could possibly transcend the "angry plebs on roids hitting each other with chairs" clichee.
 
#380 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

This is how you blur fact and fiction. I really hope this is all a work and it has to be, no way would Ambrose risk his future by saying these things. Besides, WWE made him get a twitter account for this storyline.

If this is Hunter's doing then I have to say bravo. Only worrying thing for me is that when Ambrose debut's he's gonna get the 'what?' chants and at that point i'll be raging.
 
#382 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Its obviously a work with the way guys in trouble with twitter(Brodus Clay), I doubt Ambrose would kill his momentum, Foley would stop blogging and tweeting and all this would be over

If HHH is behind this then I want Vince out NOW and HHH taking complete control cause this is absolutely amazing I just went through the whole timeline of it and its remarkable what they can do when not held back by all the restrictions on TV
 
#383 · (Edited)
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Ambrose needs to up his game - Foley is carrying this right now. Both with pointing to the TNA vid and then laughing at Ambrose for completely missing the point and thinking it was about holding down young guys. And then more recently with that blog about not trusting Ambrose because he brought up his kids.

Ambrose needs to cut a video promo on Foley or something. His tweeting about a blind wife isn't carrying his side of this feud.
 
#385 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Ambrose needs to up his game - Foley is carrying this right now. Both with pointing to the TNA vid and then laughing at Ambrose for completely missing the point and thinking it was about holding down young guys. And then more recently with that blog about not trusting Ambrose because he brought up his kids.

Ambrose needs to cut a video promo on Foley or something. His tweeting about a blind wife isn't carrying his side of this feud.

Ugh, I know we all think we're on the inside in feuds like this, but can't we just once sit back and enjoy something? It's not a damn debate. Stop keeping score and just enjoy the ride.

Dean Ambrose is a psychopath, he's not concerned with "carrying his side of (the) feud".
 
#384 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Ambrose vs. Foley in a hardcore match at Summerslam, please.
 
#389 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

a) The best villains feel justified in their actions.

b) I like not having to choose sides on this issue, because both have merit. The slippery slope adds to the realism of the feud.
 
#391 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

Nothing against Mic Foley, and I honestly think that a worked story line with Ambrose would be cool, but I would rather Ambrose debut as the last person to ever be interviewed on the Piper's Pit. Ambrose reminds me so much of Piper in terms of realism on the mic, and what he says as well. Both were edgy in their own ways. Ambrose would go back, and forth with Piper, and ultimately expose him as a false leader of a directionless generation. Finally, smashing Piper's skull with a coconut. It's almost as if Piper is looking at himself when he see's Dean.
 
#392 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I too saw his dark match at the O2, and while I found his match slightly underwhelming, his promo was top and everyone genuinely hated him. I was excitedly telling anyone within reach of me that they were looking at a future legend, but none of them believed me. They will do soon! :p
 
#455 ·
Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel

I too saw his dark match at the O2, and while I found his match slightly underwhelming, his promo was top and everyone genuinely hated him. I was excitedly telling anyone within reach of me that they were looking at a future legend, but none of them believed me. They will do soon! :p
Pretty sure the vast majority of people there didn't have a clue who he was.
 
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