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Old 05-29-2012, 12:47 PM   #1171 (permalink)
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I'd much rather see him get squashed in a way at first.
Have him face a respectable midcarder on his debut, with him not getting his own way throughout the match and becoming more and more frustrated, before snapping, getting himself DQ'd and beating them senseless.
Would let him seem dangerous without it simply being because he has power, while also quickly establishing his character that makes him so dangerous.
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:33 PM   #1172 (permalink)
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Why you're all clamoring for him to debut now when there is fuck all hype surrounding WWE and less people watching is beyond me. At least wait until around Summerslam when there will be (should be) more eyeballs on Raw and bit more hype about the place too. Who the fuck debuts in May/June when WWE is at its lowest point lol? Chill out. Everybody already worked themselves into a frenzy only to be disappointed by the Revolution stuff. Just chill. He'll be here soon enough and tbh, the longer they hold back the better imo. Do you want him to end up like Sandow or Ryback with a determined path, character and opportunity to shine or do you want him to end up like Cesaro who has pretty much been forgotten about already?
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:54 PM   #1173 (permalink)
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Why you're all clamoring for him to debut now when there is fuck all hype surrounding WWE and less people watching is beyond me. At least wait until around Summerslam when there will be (should be) more eyeballs on Raw and bit more hype about the place too. Who the fuck debuts in May/June when WWE is at its lowest point lol? Chill out. Everybody already worked themselves into a frenzy only to be disappointed by the Revolution stuff. Just chill. He'll be here soon enough and tbh, the longer they hold back the better imo. Do you want him to end up like Sandow or Ryback with a determined path, character and opportunity to shine or do you want him to end up like Cesaro who has pretty much been forgotten about already?
I agree w/ this. The biggest time of the year in WWE is Wrestlemania obviously. That buzz period lasts about a month into Extreme Rules where we mostly see Wrestlemania rematches. But once we get into May, WWE hits a lull. Right now, would not be great time to debut Ambrose or any top prospect.

That's why we are all hoping his debut comes on the 1000th episode of Raw on July 23rd. It's the perfect time to debut someone. It's the biggest show in Raw history and it's the middle of Summer, which means in the middle of the build to Summerslam.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:03 PM   #1174 (permalink)
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Why you're all clamoring for him to debut now when there is fuck all hype surrounding WWE and less people watching is beyond me. At least wait until around Summerslam when there will be (should be) more eyeballs on Raw and bit more hype about the place too. Who the fuck debuts in May/June when WWE is at its lowest point lol? Chill out. Everybody already worked themselves into a frenzy only to be disappointed by the Revolution stuff. Just chill. He'll be here soon enough and tbh, the longer they hold back the better imo. Do you want him to end up like Sandow or Ryback with a determined path, character and opportunity to shine or do you want him to end up like Cesaro who has pretty much been forgotten about already?
Yes, Cesaro's disappearing act has been rather disappointing. He's the one "debut"/"re-packaging"/whatever post-Wrestlemania this year that I just do not understand. They fumbled the ball with him. It seems like every guy or in the case of Titus/Darren guys has been given the Triple H-mandated "think about what you wanna do with them before you debut them" treatment except for poor Cesaro.
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He won't end up like Cesaro, Cesaro had nowhere near the hype surrounding him that Ambrose did. Ambrose is getting CM Punk/Daniel Bryan before their debuts level of attention. Not to say that will correlate to the same success.....necessarily, but he'll be considerably better off than Cesaro. It's not surprising that Cesaro fell off the map because at the end of the day, he really isn't that good, where it counts. Sandow is too epic to be ignored in the same way as Cesaro and Ryback is apparantly Vince's personal fetish (IF reports are to be believed), or at worst, he's at least somebody who's extraordinarily big, so he doesn't have to work very hard for a steady spot.
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Transitional period, Summer is indeed the best time. Pretty sure there are many superstars in line, but we still have our main roster, so we will have to see how WWE handles this.
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Regardless of all that, clamoring for a debut now of all times is just silly to me. Better to wait until there's a little hype on the actual shows and a air of excitement surrounding them as it will rub off on him too. The dull, plodding lifeless mess that Raw is atm is no place for a debut the way most here want. Besides, they need to start airing promos for him on the shows too. While the internet may be pissing themselves to see him, most people won't know who the fuck he is.
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I understand your point. I just think we're at a point, and certainly I am, personally, where I will be up for ANYTHING that will make the shows better. Not to mention I find it insulting when somebody like him is sitting on the sidelines ahead of most of the crap talent on the existing roster. And let's be honest here, if WWE truly, SERIOUSLY sees something in him, it won't matter when they debut him, they'll push him regardless, same thing as if they don't see anything in him, but on the other side of the spectrum.
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In regards to Cesaro, I don't think it should be that big of a surprise that he's kind of fallen off the map at this point. Everybody that knew him on the indy scene associated him with the KOW so debuting as a singles performer when that hasn't really been his forte the last few years is going to leave a lot to be desired. Plus he got stuck with Aksana so yikes.

As for Ambrose, Starbuck is right. I'd love to see him on TV right now but we're kind of in a lull at the moment with no room for him to step into a big angle right away. Plus there have been so many debuts lately that they're losing their luster. Lesnar, Tensai, Ryback, Sandow, and then Cesaro all in relatively short succession is a lot of new characters for people to process. I think keeping Ambrose off this long means that they have big plans for him and don't want to fuck it up by bringing him in as just another guy without long-term booking in place.
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It's too soon to judge Cesaro. He's only been in the main roster for a month and at least he's still undefeated. He'll eventually be featured more, maybe feuding with Christian for the IC title.
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