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Samoa Joe On Not Knowing What Vince McMahon Thinks Of Him & How He Was Able To Keep His Name In WWE

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Recently, the new NXT Champion Samoa Joe was a guest on Sam Roberts' Wrestling Podcast. Joe addressed a number of topics including how he made his way to WWE's NXT, why he was able to keep his ring name, and meeting Vince McMahon.

According to Joe, his journey to WWE was a matter of many people within WWE putting in a good word for him and getting him in touch with Triple H.

"I didn't plan on it, but it was funny, man. It's a lot of confluence of a lot of good guys kind of going to bat for me and making the connection with me and Triple H. And the next thing you know, I find myself here."

The new NXT Champion said that he was in talks with WWE for several months before making his NXT debut. Apparently, WWE worried that offering him an opportunity to join its developmental roster would be construed by the professional wrestling veteran as a slap in the face.

"I mean, [conversations with WWE] started out real informal. I've been wrestling as long as I have. I've made several inroads and friends with a lot of people. It was a real weird process because it was kind of the first time WWE in a long time ever brought in somebody, third party, under their own guise and didn't try to create them unto themselves. Me, I was an experimental idea, so it's like, 'hey, we've got these ideas' and they didn't want to say who and all of a sudden it was, 'hey, can we set up a meeting? Come down to Orlando [Florida] and lets talk about things. We've got some ideas we want to throw at you [and] see what you think.' I think, for the most part, WWE was concerned that I'd be insulted initially by some of the inroads they made to me because [of] not understanding what they're trying to build in NXT and what was going on here."

Samoa Joe claimed that Triple H's vision was to bring Joe in to bolster the NXT roster and build it as its own viable brand.

"I think Hunter kind of had a vision for how he wanted things to go. And he realized what he kind of had and wanted to catch a fire with everything and bringing me in to NXT was a big part of that. He knew I could add momentum to the brand and kind of help shift perception from it being a AAA club to being an actual third WWE brand."

As for the question of why he was able to keep his own ring name in WWE, Joe joked that having "a really good lawyer who's down with the trademark law" made it easy. Also, Joe pointed out that he was in a rare situation for an NXT talent of having built up name recognition over a 10+ year professional wrestling career. Throwing that away at this point would not have been the most prudent move.

"My lawyer is dope. Yeah, but I'm really super over and awesome, so that helps. I think the biggest thing really is when they looked at the situation, which was very unique that I was coming into, and AJ [Styles]'s much the same way. It's very unique where we have decade-plus careers and decade-plus name recognition behind us that it's more of a benefit to keep us as we are, so I think that's the biggest thing. And for branding purposes and all that, I understand their business acumen behind trying to change somebody's name. But, at the same time, do we want to start moving stuff a couple of months down the line or start moving stuff on night one? And that was a motivating factor too. I mean, it was financially smart and it was creatively smart, so I think that was the biggest thing that went into it."

Finally, Joe said that he has met Vince McMahon, but he does not know what WWE's Chairman thinks of him.

"Vince is the ultimate poker player and you'll never know [what he thinks of your character]. Oh no, it was 'very nice to meet you' and then it's like this coy smile where he's like, 'very nice to meet you', but on the other side it's like, 'pfft, you ain't s--t'. I couldn't tell, man. I've been at the table with some really great poker players. I'm sure Vince McMahon is a hell of a poker player.
 
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Idt Vince would be sold on the idea of Samoa Joe retaining his name though who knows AJ Styles has and Anderson/Gallows among others, am really at a stage where I can't see Joe being 'promoted' to the MR for TV, if anything it will be House Shows like before.
 
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Re: Samoa Joe Calls Vince McMahon "The Ultimate Poker Player"

"Vince is the ultimate poker player and you’ll never know [what he thinks of your character]. Oh no, it was ‘very nice to meet you’ and then it’s like this coy smile where he’s like, ‘very nice to meet you’, but on the other side it’s like, ‘pfft, you ain’t sh*t’. I couldn’t tell, man. I’ve been at the table with some really great poker players. I’m sure Vince McMahon is a hell of a poker player."
This is what I imagined it was like when he met Shinsuke Nakamura. I was wishing I could hear his thoughts behind that handshake and smile.
 
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Re: Samoa Joe Calls Vince McMahon "The Ultimate Poker Player"

Trips said it best: "When you come to NXT/WWE for the first time, everything else you did before means nothing". :suckit
 
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If you want to know what Vince thinks of you then just ask him. I remember if Chris Jericho's second book he wrote that when he first started at WWE he didn't know what WWE or Vince thought of him because they didn't speak to him for weeks nor did he ask them. Then one day Jericho decided to bite the bullet and he asked Vince what he thought of him and Vince said that he sucked and wasn't worth the paper they print money on. You might think that was a bad thing but the way Jericho wrote it, it was actually an eye opener for him and he used it to improve and get better.

Maybe if Joe asked Vince what he thinks of him he might be surprised to find out. Just be warned in advance that Vince won't hold back. I'd hate for Joe to ask him what he thinks of him and then Vince calls him a fat piece of shit or something.
 
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This all says to me: "Thank god HHH noticed what I can bring to the table name and talent wise because otherwise I wouldn't be here."

Vince probably thinks Joe looks sloppy and fat (and not even in the good Samoan fat type of way) that he could never be a top guy, World champion, or even main eventer. I don't agree but I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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