I get being overcome with emotion after a well-done history-making match, but the next big step in the women's wrestling movement is for the women to stop crying after great matches. It's no longer a surprise. They're better than that.
If the plan is to make female wrestlers equal to men, take cues from Brock Lesnar, John Cena and Seth Rollins and stop crying.
They don't need to do shit because you say so, guy. They're part of something really special and fulfilling lifelong dreams. Why do you give so much of a crap?
These women have been making history every time they step in the ring and have, back-to-back, had two of the most important women's matches in WWE history, and care more about what they're doing that just about anyone else - and you want them to not be so passionate?
I understand why they are doing these after-match celebrations, but I agree it shouldn't be a regular occurrence. The celebrations don't really bother me, it's the face/heel celebrating together that does.
I get the "kayfabe is dead" mentality, but you wouldn't want Brock and Taker to hug it out after their Hell in a Cell match. The illusion of a wrestling rivalry is still important. Otherwise, wrestlers might as well all take a bow together at the end of Raw every week.
Talk about grasping at straws. Yes, it can be dangerous if it's a regular thing, but it's not, and you're finding any irrelevant excuse to bitch about it.
I would get emotional too if I just had a very long energy draining match with an opponent that I faced off, and won the title from. They care that much so showing emotion isn't that bad of a thing, use it at good times though.
I agree, I want Sasha and Bayley to now be lifeless autotrons, drones without emotions. We all know that there is no crying in wrestling... Or in baseball.
It's embarrassing. Somebody needs to tell these women that it's a work. You're not really winning matches or titles.
No offense to the girls and their pre-planned, rehearsed and overproduced matches where the referee is literally holding their hands on what they're supposed to be doing next, but the women from 20+ years ago were performing to the same standard, without making a big deal about it. This was expected out of them, as professional wrestlers, and they didn't receive any pats on the back for being "about as good as the men". If they weren't as good as the men, they got fired.
This is not some ground-breaking stuff that they're doing, the only problem was that Vince blew his load from watching Sable and decided to hire nothing but models for the next 15 years, until WWE went PG. As a result he created the image that women's wrestling was always garbage, even though women outside of WWE were still doing great matches.
What we need is to have people stop acting like it's something incredible that a woman can work a match. Once things settle down to normal "pre-Diva" times of women's wrestling, people will stop claiming that every half-decent women's match is a 5-star classic with the girls crying their eyes out, hugging each other and totally dropping their characters in the process for doing what they're supposed to do as entertainers.
I don't see the problem unless the emotions hinder their ability to do the match properly. last night you could tell that Bayley was overcome with emotion and they seemed to have trouble getting things to flow in the first few minutes because of it. i'm not saying that it ruined the match or anything, but it definitely seemed to affect how they started it
I want you to go and watch every Women's/Diva's title change from the last 10 years and count how many girls didn't cry after winning that championship. It's probably less than a hand full. Women wrestlers have been crying after certain matches forever. It's not a new trend. Hell I've seen male MMA fighters cry after a hard fight. People get emotional. It's human nature.
If you followed the building of the match you already know the stress that Sasha and Bailey had, that match made history of WWE even before starting.
Sasha knew was probably the last night in NXT for her, a real family that grew up a faint-girl to the badass she is today, the last night in a show were she can really show who she is.
Same for Bailey winning at previous Takeover in Brooklyn, goddamn, from Full Sail to conquering Brooklyn with the match of the year and you don't pretend they cry?
Just keep the emotional to the wrestling until is real and has a meaning behind it.
Dusty Rhodes, Kazuchika Okada, Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Shawn Michaels, Terry Funk, Randy Savage, and countless other men have cried post matches.
This is not new. Crying is emotion which sells a loss or victory. Jesus Christ. You are just hating on them because they are women and just be contrarian which is blatantly obvious.
Well forget the crying and getting emotional. I have zero problem with that.
Here's what I DO have a problem with.
I found it odd to watch the female wrestlers getting handed flowers after the match. Talk about setting women back. Holy crap, that was uncomfortable to witness. What is this Miss America?
It's not the emotion that gets me with it tbh. It's nice seeing Sasha and Bayley care so much for what they do, living their dreams, and giving it their all, but it's how disingenuous it's treated by bookers. Everything revolving around the female talent since... around about... the special event before Sasha won the NXT Women's Championship from Charlotte, has been very transparent. An attempt to make Steph look good to the public who don't care for WWE, and to make HHH look good to fans like us.
Basically we can all tell the emotion is real. Sasha really did almost break down after that match because it means so much. The whole back-room coming out, every fucking talent walking to the stage to clap, HHH and Steph handing them flowers, people crying, etc. It was all so manufactured. It's pathetic. And I feel bad that they're using the dedication these great talented women have for the business to make themselves look like they've had a hand in anything. Because they didn't give a shit until they saw first-hand how talented they could be, and therefore, how much money and publicity they could gain.
Add to that how all of this special treatment is akin to giving feminists all the shit they expect, even though I don't think Sasha, Bayley, or any other female wrestler in WWE right now, actually want to be spotlighted like that.
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