The Divas on Nxt are what made me a fan and most of the best women's matches I've ever seen are from the past 1 1/2 years of Nxt. Mostly thanks to Sasha Banks.
Having said all that: what the fuck is up with the lame 30 minute Iron Man match? Watching clips of them working out for their cardio and whatever.
Sasha/Bailey wrestling over 20 minutes for sure their last match. So this match will now be guaranteed to be a whole few minutes longer and it's such a big deal? FUCKING WOW!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pissed cuz i thought Nxt Takeover would be on this weekend and it isn't and my 3 beer buzz is wearing off. This is bullshit.
Maybe it's a big deal because their previous match was arguably the best women's match in a LONG time, and it felt like a big deal thanks to a long storyline with Bayley finally reaching the top.
But being pissed about THIS match just because it isn't a regular ironman match. Grasping for something to complain about, aren't we?
Arguably :mj? WWE ranked it as the greatest NXT match of all time. That is HUGE praise, considering the caliber of talent and matches they've had in the last 2 years, and the :fact that NXT as a whole has shown up the main roster with every live special.
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to make a good 60 minute match?
Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart, two of the best wrestlers WWE ever had, failed to make their 60 minutes entertaining (in part due to their decision to have no falls).
Bayley and Sasha are great and all that, but neither are even approaching Michaels/Hart's levels, so consider that. 30 minutes is a huge undertaking for both of them as it is. They're going to need a very well laid out and structured match, given even their great Takeover match was under 20 minutes.
60 minutes is nearly unfeasible today with how wrestlers work, unless you load it up with lots of falls and gimmick (Lucha Underground did a good 60 minute Iron Man because they had all sorts of weapons and tables and big jumps as well as commercial breaks to help pace it all). In the right environment it can work, like CM Punk/Samoa Joe's matches, but a 2 and a half hour Takeover show isn't it.
This should be the longest WWE Women's match in history. That alone speaks volumes. They have 10 years in both of these girls to work their way up to a 60 minute. Test the waters here and see the reception. It'd be absolutely insane to go from 18 minutes to 60.
Sasha/Bailey wrestling over 20 minutes for sure their last match. So this match will now be guaranteed to be a whole few minutes longer and it's such a big deal? FUCKING WOW!!!!!!!!!!
Sasha/Bailey wrestling over 20 minutes for sure their last match. So this match will now be guaranteed to be a whole few minutes longer and it's such a big deal? FUCKING WOW!!!!!!!!!!
Their longest match (Takeover Brooklyn) was 18 minutes long, bell to bell. If you're counting promos, entrances, post-match celebrations, then yes -- they "wrestled" for over 20 minutes.
However this time, their BELL TO BELL time will be 30 minutes, which is 12 minutes longer than their previous encounter, which is still alot of time.
I do actually agree about the 30 minute thing. I'm not shitting on the match either as I'm sure it will be great, but the Iron Man name alone implies a match that will push you to your absolute limit. I know 30 minutes is a hell of a long match, and there have been good 30 minute Iron Mans, but I just feel it should always be an hour long match and nothing less. Still looking forward to the match though and hope it turns out good.
I'm sure the match will be excellent, but let's face it, selling their iron man match as 30 minutes rather than 60 just once again sets forth the idea that women aren't as good as men, even if that's not actually WWE's intention.
Lucha Underground had two dudes go at it for 60 minutes and deliver an entertaining match, ROH had an hour long match on pay per view not that long ago as well, and WWE only gives the ladies 30 minutes?
Not possible on NXT tough, they gotta plug their network that you're watching and future content at least twice every hour. This Iron Man match would be impossible to do!
LU has obligations to the TV network. This is an online thing for the WWE and they still can't get it right.
Their Brooklyn match was 18:22 so yeah I get what the OP is saying, but the videos and cardio stuff is just really stressing the importance of the stipulation and that is all, they are the main event also so that is a huge deal in itself. I'm loving the build up!
Lets face it 75% of the hour long ironman matches are usually rest holds and catching breath. Bret vs Shawn especially was like that. Its very difficult to make an hour long match not boring. Plus both Sasha and Bayley are still pretty unexperienced compared to all the other previous ironman participants.
Half an hour, main event seems like a perfect scenario as far as I'm concerned
It's like an mma fight. Guys can routinely go 15 minutes, but if they don't train hard enough they can gas in championship fights with only 10 extra minutes added on and that's with a 1 minute break every 5 minutes.
The promo had the classic training montage formula to get you hyped and invested into the match. There's more to the match itself than the time limit given if you knew that, it was good for it was and complaining about in a poor fashion doesn't bring your point home.
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