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04-16-2012, 10:10 PM
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
the fact that it has me questioning whether it's a work or not makes this even more amazing
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04-16-2012, 10:21 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
Again, what Cane Dewey helps us understand about this turn in the story (that Ambrose lost his golden ticket for bringing Foley's kids into it), is that Foley's character even when he was Cactus Jack has always been this troubled family man. A person who does terrible things in the ring, and lets terrible men destroy his body, but also out of love (love for his family).
Fast forward 18 or so years and Foley has already gone through several cycles of Anti-Hardcore, and is now a lovable old man with a sock in his pants. Ambrose bringing his kids into it is daring to take Foley back, way, way, back to that dark place long ago. It is trying to force Mick Foley The Man to be Cactus Jack The Monster again.
The brilliance is that for Mick Foley, in and outside of kayfabe, this is the worst possible thing to ask of him. Kayfabe Mick Foley and real Mick Foley are in every right, after their careers, to take away Ambrose's Golden Ticket. It captures perfectly that contradiction that has always been at the heart of Foley - between the family man and the hardcore legend.
Remember how Ambrose immediately worked to take Regal to the very edge, and mess with the very essence of his character? He is doing it again with Foley.
WWE, please, please please please PLEASE let this run. I could watch this unfold forever.
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04-16-2012, 10:52 PM
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
Best thing in WWE right now by miles, and it's not even on TV. Damn.
I know it's work, but part of me just has this niggling doubt, I don't know, but I'm loving it either way. This could be HUGE if WWE don't mess it up. And if they do, they can go fuck themselves up the arse with a rusty chainsaw.
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04-16-2012, 10:57 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
This is definitely the coolest thing in wrestling right now. This angle has me checking my laptop and phone constantly to see if anything new has developed.
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04-16-2012, 11:20 PM
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
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Originally Posted by Davion McCool
Again, what Cane Dewey helps us understand about this turn in the story (that Ambrose lost his golden ticket for bringing Foley's kids into it), is that Foley's character even when he was Cactus Jack has always been this troubled family man. A person who does terrible things in the ring, and lets terrible men destroy his body, but also out of love (love for his family).
Fast forward 18 or so years and Foley has already gone through several cycles of Anti-Hardcore, and is now a lovable old man with a sock in his pants. Ambrose bringing his kids into it is daring to take Foley back, way, way, back to that dark place long ago. It is trying to force Mick Foley The Man to be Cactus Jack The Monster again.
The brilliance is that for Mick Foley, in and outside of kayfabe, this is the worst possible thing to ask of him. Kayfabe Mick Foley and real Mick Foley are in every right, after their careers, to take away Ambrose's Golden Ticket. It captures perfectly that contradiction that has always been at the heart of Foley - between the family man and the hardcore legend.
Remember how Ambrose immediately worked to take Regal to the very edge, and mess with the very essence of his character? He is doing it again with Foley.
WWE, please, please please please PLEASE let this run. I could watch this unfold forever.
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Chilling, this is! I actually want this to just play out slowly.......slowly watching Mick have to turn into Cactus one more time! This is just too good to be true! I can't wait!
Is there any footage of Ambrose's dark match/promo tonight?
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04-16-2012, 11:47 PM
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
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Chilling, this is! I actually want this to just play out slowly.......slowly watching Mick have to turn into Cactus one more time! This is just too good to be true! I can't wait!
Is there any footage of Ambrose's dark match/promo tonight?
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04-16-2012, 11:54 PM
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Acknowledged by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
 HE HAS BARBED WIRE ON HIS TIGHTS!!!! 
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04-17-2012, 01:33 AM
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
Part of the reason it's so cool is because there's truth to it as well. It makes perfect sense for Ambrose to be pissed off because what he is saying makes sense.
Foley writes about this a lot in his book, when he actually feels slightly pissed off in real life he tries to bring it into storyline so that his promo's come across more real.
A good example of this is when they did the whole 'Beyond The Mat' thing at Royal Rumble and Foley let Rock beat him up pretty bad with a steel chair. Rock was the only one to not go and see if Foley was alright after the match and that really got to Foley. Although he worked with him and they were friends, he never settled or brought that up with The Rock until a good few years after because he wanted that real life emotion when he was planned to turn heel against The Rock leading up to Mania to elevate Rock for Wrestlemania. I reckon somewhere Foley has given Ambrose a bit of advice and said 'let that real emotion out'. Foley would be cool with that 'cos that's exactly what he did, I think that's why a while back Foley tweeted 'I've got the right guy and the right storyline that I want to do'.
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04-17-2012, 03:35 AM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
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Originally Posted by Jbardo
- Here is the latest on the Mick Foley vs. Dean Ambrose. Foley has reportedly written a blog on the situation, but has decided not to publish it until his latest book deal (his WWE kid's book featuring Miz and CM Punk, among others) so as not to hurt his book deal.
WWE has a long term plan set with their storyline, as they started the issue via social media and will then move it to a larger scale.
The goal is to introduce and make Ambrose a star right out of the gate in a new and unique manner.
Credit: Pwinsider.com
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Please be true, don't screw this up WWE!
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04-17-2012, 05:59 AM
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Learning to break kayfabe
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Re: Dean Ambrose confronts Mick Foley at WrestleMania Hotel
I cant wait for him to finally debut, hopefully they wont screw it up. I mean it all seems to be to good to be true so far.
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