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Dean/Moxley · 10-31-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie Ray

Dean Ambrose in a banana suit, your argument is invalid

getting into the Halloween spirit, i see.

Ambrose is bananas! Get it? He portrays a psychotic character.. reference is used to show something is crazy..

**Tenacious.C** · 10-31-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Asenath

Pffffth.

There's nothing, save a little bleeding and a little cursing - neither of which are vital or essential to the gimmick - that couldn't be done under PG restrictions. For the vast history of wrestling on TV, it has been. The time that it wasn't was an aberration - and a terrible one, at that.

So the PG rating, and just how ridiculously far the quality of the show has dropped is a massive, massive coincidence?

Asenath · 10-31-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenacious.C.

So the PG rating, and just how ridiculously far the quality of the show has dropped is a massive, massive coincidence?

Tell me again how the Attitude Era was a wonderland, m'kay?

Eddie Ray · 10-31-2012, 05:42 PM

PG doesn't determine whether something is good or not. Booking and creative determines that. I didn't like the attitude era, being a gay woman, i found it uncomfortable in retrospect with sexist and homophobic undertones (and overtones), some of which lingers around to this day. The Golden Era of wrestling was PG but it was good because it was booked well with many likeable and memorable characters.

I say bring back blood on occasions (not every week) and mild swearing but never go back to the AE, its had its time, we need to usher in a new era, one that is unique, modern and cutting edge-something people could consider trendy. it doesn't need to be overtly offensive like AE aimed to be, but risque in a tasteful way-artistic, if you will. Wrestling is an art form after all and it should be treated as such. We need to up the intelligence level otherwise wrestling will always be perceived as idiots entertainment.

**Tenacious.C** · 10-31-2012, 06:04 PM

Tell me where I've mentioned the Attitude era?

Asenath · 10-31-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenacious.C.

Tell me where I've mentioned the Attitude era?

This may be just me, but AE and the post-Invasion era after it melt together in my mind. I quit watching in 01, and have just come back. And from what I saw while catching up, until the product went PG again, it was the same string of nearly-naked ladies and overmuscled dudebros making gay jokes to compensate for the inherent homoerotic nature of wrestling.

The Arseache Kid · 10-31-2012, 06:24 PM

Wrestling has always been successful when it has kept up with modern culture. The Attitude Era reflected a lot of youth culture back in the mid/late 90's. That's why it was so popular. If you stuck the Attitude Era in modern times it would come across as out dated, boring and shit. Modern culture is currently moving at a phenomenal rate with social media being at the heart and the WWE thinks it is keeping up by simply mentioning hashtags. It doesn't work like that. If the WWE wants to be relevant right now it has to be right up to date, stories and characters need to react to things that are happening on a daily basis. The best part of Monday's Raw was Punk making fun of Foley for being from the North-East of America. THAT is exactly the kind of thing a heel should be doing in modern wrestling.

Fuck me, what a tangent.

**CHAMPviaDQ** · 10-31-2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Asenath

Tell me again how the Attitude Era was a wonderland, m'kay?

Wow Asenath, didn't expect such an absolute shit counter argument from you.

**NeyNey** · 10-31-2012, 11:06 PM

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Or after the election it just stays the same and Ambrose never debuts and we're just stuck in an endless cycle of Crap! Who knows!

Endless Cycle of Crap

truk83 · 11-01-2012, 07:12 AM

What's interesting about Ambrose is that he could easily be debuted as a "face". Perhaps he is the guy that interrupts MizTv, or heckles the WWE Champion CM Punk? Dean has a character about him that could really be liked by the WWE fans. His anti-authority, or bad boy reputation is something that could easily work in the WWE because Ambrose could sell that character no problem. We all, including myself just assume he is going to be this awesome heel once he debuts. I honestly think he is talented enough to draw "face" responses from the fans depending on what heel he is matched up versus. Dean's mic skills alone could push him either way imo.