[Duke6881]

all i know its time for him to debut he's wrestled 16 dark matches since april

[Kazzenn]

Originally Posted by psx71

Why do I have this feeling that Vince hates Dean Ambrose? Part of me thinks that Vince doesn't really give a damn about him, and he'll end up being a guy whose hot for 1 week, and destroyed after that.

Punk and Bryan got real lucky with they pushes. Punk came in a time where WWE wanted the public to believe that they were "drug free", so they gave this guy a push to set an example, and even gave him their top belts. Not saying that Punk isn't talented, but if "talent" is anything in the WWE then guys like Tyson Kid would have been champion by now. It eventually got to the point where Punk became a solidified mid carder/fluctuating main-event talent that cannot really lose his position in the company. Fast forward to June 2011, they wanted to an angle to take out CM Punk with which ended up making him the top faces of the company today. Lucky.

Bryan on the other hand was suppose to be the first guy to lose his Money In The Bank briefcase and only ended up winning because

A) Henry was hurt
B) They wanted to have Sheamus as one of their top babyfaces going over a heel at Mania. And Henry was out, Orton and Show were babyfaces.

Also, his match only lasted 18 seconds, which in turn led to fans all around the world protesting the WWE and making Bryan a star as well.

I don't know, but I don't think Ambrose will have this kind of luck when he debuts. Really hope Vince likes him.

While he isn't Vince levels of importance, I read somewhere HHH really like Ambrose so he's got some higher ups liking him.

[Punked Up]

Oh I get it, it all makes sense. One of the most phsycotic and edgy heels in the last 10 years begins verbal assaults on a man who he claimed ruined an ENTIRE GENERATION OF WRESTLERS. There's talk of handicapping Foley's kids, and how he should be dead.

And then they just talk it out. Cute.

You know what though? I'm not gonna let it upset me for a few reasons..

A) There's still hope that all the "fued is cancelled stuff" is a work and they're gonna do the fued when they least expect it.

B) I don't find wrestling worth getting upset over, unless it's something clearly fixable like the tag division and commentary.

[bspence]

What about bringing Jericho back as a face and having him and Ambrose feud before Jericho leaves to tour?

[BrianAmbrose]

We have until the 1000th Raw before I throw in the towel on WWE thinking Ambrose is special.
Maybe they hate Mick Foley. Or maybe Ambrose is LIEING to foley about things being "good". Maybe Ambrose buried the hatchet because he thought it was preventing him from debuting.
So many possibilities they could take the character in.

[swagger_ROCKS]

Originally Posted by Punked Up

Oh I get it, it all makes sense. One of the most phsycotic and edgy heels in the last 10 years begins verbal assaults on a man who he claimed ruined an ENTIRE GENERATION OF WRESTLERS. There's talk of handicapping Foley's kids, and how he should be dead.

And then they just talk it out. Cute.

You know what though? I'm not gonna let it upset me for a few reasons..

A) There's still hope that all the "fued is cancelled stuff" is a work and they're gonna do the fued when they least expect it.

B) I don't find wrestling worth getting upset over, unless it's something clearly fixable like the tag division and commentary.

You said the magic word, buddy. I mean Foley's appearance imo was random as hell, so it may be in the early stages. Highly doubt it, but just because he doesn't have a over the top unique debut, doesn't mean he will go downhill into obscurity. Wasn't Punk's debut just a regular match?

[Duke6881]

I sure Hope they're working everybody

[Kazzenn]

You're giving way too much credit to WWE. I can't possibly see this being a work.

[Cynic]

A year ago, everyone on here was all apeshit over how great CM Punk was and that he needed to get pushed. Then he did get pushed, and now the same people who wanted him to get pushed hate him for being stale and boring, because who can like a guy who actually does get pushed? So how long before Ambrose hate becomes fashionable from the same people praising him? 6 months? A year? I look forward to finding out.

[Kazzenn]

Originally Posted by Cynic

A year ago, everyone on here was all apeshit over how great CM Punk was and that he needed to get pushed. Then he did get pushed, and now the same people who wanted him to get pushed hate him for being stale and boring, because who can like a guy who actually does get pushed? So how long before Ambrose hate becomes fashionable from the same people praising him? 6 months? A year? I look forward to finding out.

Denying that Punk's character hasn't changed is being blind, and I still like Punk.