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Re: GOAT rock vocalist/singer suggestions

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Well, in terms of GOAT, I got to say Freddy Mercury. No one could captivate and entertain a huge stadium-size crowd better than him especially during Queen's shows at Wembley Stadium.
This is what me and Bully were discussing though.

What defines a great singer, or vocalist, or frontman?

A great frontman doesn't have to be a great singer, a great vocalist doesn't have to have the best voice and can also be relatively boring to watch live (if you're into your Axl Roses and Mike Pattons - two of the greatest 'frontmen' ever, regardless of what you think of their voices). A great vocalist can reach into your fucking soul and squeeze your heart.

A great singer can be really annoying (see Mariah Carey).

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I wouldn't necessarily call him a GOAT but just to add to the discussion of 'vocalist not singer', would people agree that Cobain would come under that bracket of being a great vocalist, but not a particularly great 'singer'? Similar to Anark's point about Layne and Ed Ved.
I said this before, but I don't think Kurt should be in this kind of debate, and I think he'd probably be embarrassed just to be getting mentioned.

He's a vocalist out of the three so far defined types, but he is a songwriter before that. He should be in the songwriter bracket, not the frontman/singer/vocalist bracket.

His singing is not what defined him.

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Re: GOAT rock vocalist/singer suggestions

I should've included Mark Lanegan on my list, love his vocals on Uncle Anaesthesia.

Some more vocalists that don't get mentioned enough:

Neil Fallon (truly the most underrated vocalist of all time IMO)
Tom Waits
Robert Lowe (no, not the guy from Wayne's World)
Devin Townsend
Anneke Van Giersbergen
Wino
Jeff Buckley
Dax Riggs
Mikael Akerfeldt
John Garcia

Okay that'll do donkey, that'll do. I always go overboard in topics like this.

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Re: GOAT rock vocalist/singer suggestions

I absolutely think Cobain deserves a place as vocalist, one of the best most powerful screams in the history of rock for the heavy stuff and totally emotive on the quieter stuff, its rock music so I dont think technical ability matters half as much as getting the message across and having unique character. plus he could really project with that voice, he had serious lung power.

Same reason I put Bon Scott on there, not a technical great vocalist but perfect to deliver what ACDC were all about.

@Krang - everything Lanegan does is gold, check out the solo album I posted in the 'rec an album' thread if you havent heard it, beautiful stuff.

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@Krang - everything Lanegan does is gold, check out the solo album I posted in the 'rec an album' thread if you havent heard it, beautiful stuff.
I tried getting into his solo stuff a few years back, but that was before I was an official card carrier of the I Bum The Screaming Trees Fan Club. I'll give it another go sir.

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Re: GOAT rock vocalist/singer suggestions

Not gonna deny Hanoi's truth-telling. I think I love Cobain too much to put him in a battle with far superior singers etc.

Here's the debate though, are we looking for the most technically gifted singer or the vocalist who penetrated more hearts, or the greatest frontman who entertained while rocking the fuck out of us?

Off the top of my head:

Greatest Technical Singer: Chris Cornell (with Sebastian Bach an honourable second)
Greatest Emotive Vocalist: Layne Staley (with Eddie Vedder not too far behind)
Greatest Fucking Frontman: Bruce Dickinson (with honourable mention to Axl Rose and Mike Patton)

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Re: GOAT rock vocalist/singer suggestions

Including great frontmen (or frontwomen) is an interesting talking point. I think with this being just about vocal/singing talent though, I'd neglect naming someone just because they have the ability to put on a show. A prime example being Ozzy - his singing voice is good, but not good enough to warrant a place on the list of all time greats, but as a frontman, he's a class act.

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I absolutely think Cobain deserves a place as vocalist, one of the best most powerful screams in the history of rock for the heavy stuff and totally emotive on the quieter stuff, its rock music so I dont think technical ability matters half as much as getting the message across and having unique character. plus he could really project with that voice, he had serious lung power.
This. It's easy to write off Cobain with the mainstream success he's had, but you can't overlook the raw passion of his vocal delivery. The man exemplified the Punk/Grunge rebelion, and he's as real as it gets. That's the core of what made Nirvana great, without Kurt's vocals the band wouldn't have been much to write home about.

As for a list, i'll try to come up with something this week and post on the thread. There's so many artists to cover and I don't want to leave out anyone important.

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Re: GOAT rock vocalist/singer suggestions

Freddie Mercury - Chris Cornell - James LaBrie - Corey Taylor



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Re: GOAT rock vocalist/singer suggestions

Freddie Mercury

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Then the likes of:

Jeff Buckley
Roy Orbison
Ian Gillan
Paul McCartney
Sebastian Bach
Chris Cornell (pre-Audioslave days)
Jimmy Gnecco
Robert Plant
Geoff Tate
Mike Matijevic
Steve Perry
Jim Morrison (highly underrated imo)





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Re: GOAT rock vocalist/singer suggestions

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Freddie Mercury

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Then the likes of:

Jeff Buckley
Roy Orbison
Ian Gillan
Paul McCartney
Sebastian Bach
Chris Cornell (pre-Audioslave days)
Jimmy Gnecco
Robert Plant
Geoff Tate
Mike Matijevic
Steve Perry
Jim Morrison (highly underrated imo)
Roy Orbison mention

In fact this list is pretty perfect except for the omission of Thom Yorke.
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