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Old 10-18-2012, 01:44 AM   #51 (permalink)
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(1) 2Pac vs. (4) Notorious B.I.G.
(2) Nas vs. (3) Eminem
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(1) 2Pac vs. (4) Notorious B.I.G.
(2) Nas vs. (3) Eminem
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Nas is so "meh".
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It doesn't matter if someone doesn't get the references. Anyone who enjoys good music can appreciate Illmatic and many other Nas albums. Just because he's from Serbia it doesn't mean that his opinion is any less valid.

I didn't say his opinion is less valid, I don't believe.

I was honestly wondering how someone from Serbia even comes to listen to Nas.......and also why? Do people make music in Serbia? What's on the radio and big on the charts over there? It may sound dumb, but I'm honestly wondering and curious.
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I didn't say his opinion is less valid, I don't believe.

I was honestly wondering how someone from Serbia even comes to listen to Nas.......and also why? Do people make music in Serbia? What's on the radio and big on the charts over there? It may sound dumb, but I'm honestly wondering and curious.
Lol, you act like Serbia is motherfucking North Korea. It's an European country where radios, internet and all that exist just like in the U.S. and other European countries. I assume you have never been outside of America (or North America for that matter) because that's the only way such a mind-state can be explained.

With internet, anything is accessible. And a rapper like Nas is one of the most well known rappers around the world and he comes on radio every now and then so I doubt many people who are "in" on the modern world don't know about him. Also, you don't have to understand his references to really enjoy the music. I've been listening to Nas for over 5 years now and not until a year ago did I really start paying attention to the heavy slang he uses most of which I didn't even understand. For instance, I had no idea what the fuck he's on about in "Memory Lane" but now I understand it all. With help from internet and slang dictionaries, of course.
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Lol, you act like Serbia is motherfucking North Korea. It's an European country where radios, internet and all that exist just like in the U.S. and other European countries. I assume you have never been outside of America (or North America for that matter) because that's the only way such a mind-state can be explained.

With internet, anything is accessible. And a rapper like Nas is one of the most well known rappers around the world and he comes on radio every now and then so I doubt many people who are "in" on the modern world don't know about him. Also, you don't have to understand his references to really enjoy the music. I've been listening to Nas for over 5 years now and not until a year ago did I really start paying attention to the heavy slang he uses most of which I didn't even understand. For instance, I had no idea what the fuck he's on about in "Memory Lane" but now I understand it all. With help from internet and slang dictionaries, of course.
Correct, I have never been off of North America. I'm not saying that I think they don't have internet and radios and shit and live like the Amish or something......it just bugs me out that American culture would be on their radar like that. Because no other countries cultures are on my mind like that.

And yeah, I do wonder how a foreigner would enjoy a song like A Queens Story, for example. Shit, if I wasn't from NY and old enough to remember the 90's, I would be like "what the fuck is dude talking about".
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Correct, I have never been off of North America. I'm not saying that I think they don't have internet and radios and shit and live like the Amish or something......it just bugs me out that American culture would be on their radar like that. Because no other countries cultures are on my mind like that.

And yeah, I do wonder how a foreigner would enjoy a song like A Queens Story, for example. Shit, if I wasn't from NY and old enough to remember the 90's, I would be like "what the fuck is dude talking about".
Well, you are in America and that's the country that's "being watched" by the rest of the world so you can bet your ass most countries will be very interested in your culture. The same can't be said the other way around. America is a very patriotic country and most people are mostly just concerned about what goes on inside their country and not much outside of it. (not generalizing, but I'm saying most are like that) And majority of the time there is an American born person that is knowledgeable of other parts of the world, chances are they've been around the world.

Think of it this way, America is at the top so it'll be in the mind of those who stand below but America itself doesn't have to think that way since they are the top and have nothing to see below them.
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Well, you are in America and that's the country that's "being watched" by the rest of the world so you can bet your ass most countries will be very interested in your culture. The same can't be said the other way around. America is a very patriotic country and most people are mostly just concerned about what goes on inside their country and not much outside of it. (not generalizing, but I'm saying most are like that) And majority of the time there is an American born person that is knowledgeable of other parts of the world, chances are they've been around the world.

Think of it this way, America is at the top so it'll be in the mind of those who stand below but America itself doesn't have to think that way since they are the top and have nothing to see below them.

Yeah, no doubt. It's just weird for me to look at it the other way, or imagine it from the other perspective.
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Well, I've got nothing to really explain, Choke2Death handled it.

Anyways, a lot of things go on the "radios" here, but I sincerely doubt Nas has ever been one a channel here.

I've known about him since forever (ie since I got interested in rap). I'm just not that big into him, is all. Is Eminem a better rapper, or did I vote just because I like him more? I think that he is a better rapper.

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That's a lie. I just know that he is a fantastic rapper and that I've never been like "woah, this shit is good" when listening to Nas, which is why I voted for Em.

As for the references: I'd say that a good song should still be understandable to anyone, even if it is filled with heavy and obscure references.
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That's a lie. I just know that he is a fantastic rapper and that I've never been like "woah, this shit is good" when listening to Nas, which is why I voted for Em.
I rap for listeners, bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Henessey-holders and old-school .....s
Then I be dissing a Unofficial that smoke Woolie Thai
I dropped out of Cooley High, gassed up by a cokehead cutie pie
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My man put the battery in my back, a difference from Energizer
Sentence begins indented with formality
My duration's infinite, moneywise or physiology
Poetry, that's a part of me, retardedly bop
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I reminisce on park jams, my man was shot for his sheep coat
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With side-bets, I roll a deuce, nothing below (Peace God!)
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I'm taking .....s on a trip straight through memory lane
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I rap divine, God, check the prognosis: is it real or showbiz?
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