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Old 10-16-2012, 09:31 AM   #31 (permalink)
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The only Jay-Z album i would truly call garbage is Kingdom Come. Plus he's put out mad classics, more than most MCs can claim. As for one dimensional, yeah brag rap is his main thing, but he's no more one dimensional than B.I.G. Hell, he's more versatile than elites like Pun n Redman.
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The only Jay-Z album i would truly call garbage is Kingdom Come. Plus he's put out mad classics, more than most MCs can claim. As for one dimensional, yeah brag rap is his main thing, but he's no more one dimensional than B.I.G. Hell, he's more versatile than elites like Pun n Redman.
His only "mad classic" is Reasonable Doubt IMO. The Blueprint and The Black Album are great, then there are some decent ones like Blueprint 2 (although it's loaded with some filler), Vol 1 In My Lifetime and American Gangster. Then there's some trash like Hard Knock Life (not the song), Life and Times of S. Carter, Kingdom Come and Blueprint 3. The difference between Jay and others like BIG and Redman is the fact they have less than 10 albums between them which doesn't match Jay's # of albums in his discography. And with that said, I wouldn't have ranked those two above Jay either so maybe I'm just not feeling one-dimensional rappers that much. Or maybe I do if they come out with awesome one-liners and get totally awesome beats in the background. Which might explain why I love a lot of west coast rap even though some of them like DJ Quik, MC Eiht and Too $hort rarely talk about many different topics. But I don't rank them highly as MCs, though.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:28 PM   #33 (permalink)
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(1) 2Pac vs. (4) Notorious B.I.G.
(2) Nas vs. (3) Eminem
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His only "mad classic" is Reasonable Doubt IMO. The Blueprint and The Black Album are great, then there are some decent ones like Blueprint 2 (although it's loaded with some filler), Vol 1 In My Lifetime and American Gangster. Then there's some trash like Hard Knock Life (not the song), Life and Times of S. Carter, Kingdom Come and Blueprint 3. The difference between Jay and others like BIG and Redman is the fact they have less than 10 albums between them which doesn't match Jay's # of albums in his discography. And with that said, I wouldn't have ranked those two above Jay either so maybe I'm just not feeling one-dimensional rappers that much. Or maybe I do if they come out with awesome one-liners and get totally awesome beats in the background. Which might explain why I love a lot of west coast rap even though some of them like DJ Quik, MC Eiht and Too $hort rarely talk about many different topics. But I don't rank them highly as MCs, though.
Vol. 2 and 3 aren't that bad. Vol. 3 was actually pretty good, Vol. 2 had some great tracks, it just wasn't all that cohesive. BP3 was pretty fuckin bad tho lol. Nah tho, this is derailin the thread, the gawd might jus start a Jay-Z thread a lil later.
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The only Jay-Z album i would truly call garbage is Kingdom Come. Plus he's put out mad classics, more than most MCs can claim. As for one dimensional, yeah brag rap is his main thing, but he's no more one dimensional than B.I.G. Hell, he's more versatile than elites like Pun n Redman.
BP3, Kingdom Come, Vol 2, BP2 are all garbage

Blueprint, Black Album, Reasonable Doubt and Vol 1 are all classics

American Gangster is a personal classic

Dynasty is just good, nothing more and nothing less and the same with Vol 3
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Reasonable Doubt, Black Album and The Blueprint are the only Hov albums that I can bump from start to finish and enjoy it throughout.
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(1) 2Pac vs. (4) Notorious B.I.G.
(2) Nas vs. (3) Eminem

listened to eminem since i was a kid, it should be pac and biggie smalls in the final but i just prefer biggie
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(1) 2Pac vs. (4) Notorious B.I.G.
(2) Nas vs. (3) Eminem
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2Pac & Nas both leading Biggie & Eminem 18-10 respectively.
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