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Old 10-03-2012, 11:11 PM   #51 (permalink)
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How is Method Man getting ALL the votes?

I mean, I'd go Red all day, he's clearly better to me. But I can see Meth getting votes, he's a good rapper, that's not unreasonable. But damn near ALL the votes? I really can't figure that one.
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How is Method Man getting ALL the votes?

I mean, I'd go Red all day, he's clearly better to me. But I can see Meth getting votes, he's a good rapper, that's not unreasonable. But damn near ALL the votes? I really can't figure that one.
Their styles are so different. I think it's what makes em such a good duo. All a matter of personal preference really.
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It sucks that Black Thought got matched up with Ice Cube.

Biggest shock for me so far is Talib over Kanye, voting isn't over but it's looking Talib is gonna knock him out. Talib's a great rapper, don't get me wrong but I definitely didn't expect him to outvote Kanye.
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It sucks that Black Thought got matched up with Ice Cube.

Biggest shock for me so far is Talib over Kanye, voting isn't over but it's looking Talib is gonna knock him out. Talib's a great rapper, don't get me wrong but I definitely didn't expect him to outvote Kanye.
Yeah, Thought's better than a lot of the other rappers on the list. Same with whoever loses the Chuck D/Scarface.

Talib's got some irrational, "fed up with radio and just discovered a rapper who is deep so he's the greatest!" type of fans who go hard as hell for him.

And I like Talib Kweli. I didn't vote for him but don't have a problem with him beating Kanye, because in some ways he is a better rapper. But honestly, if I was making a top 32 list, Talib probably wouldn't make my field.
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Yeah, Thought's better than a lot of the other rappers on the list. Same with whoever loses the Chuck D/Scarface.

Talib's got some irrational, "fed up with radio and just discovered a rapper who is deep so he's the greatest!" type of fans who go hard as hell for him.

And I like Talib Kweli. I didn't vote for him but don't have a problem with him beating Kanye, because in some ways he is a better rapper. But honestly, if I was making a top 32 list, Talib probably wouldn't make my field.
Kanye's production tipped him over Talib but the Black Star albums had me giving him the vote. My votes were on my personal taste though. No doubt that Kanye is the more successful rapper that will also leave a bigger dent in the rap game.

Tough call really.
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Am I too late to vote?

I'll assume so, and just vote in the next round.
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Yeah, Thought's better than a lot of the other rappers on the list. Same with whoever loses the Chuck D/Scarface.

Talib's got some irrational, "fed up with radio and just discovered a rapper who is deep so he's the greatest!" type of fans who go hard as hell for him.

And I like Talib Kweli. I didn't vote for him but don't have a problem with him beating Kanye, because in some ways he is a better rapper. But honestly, if I was making a top 32 list, Talib probably wouldn't make my field.
I voted for Talib not because I'm much of a fan, but because Kanye is a terrible rapper. His production is not gonna get me to support him just like it wouldn't with Dre.

And I really think it sucks that Meth is getting all the votes over Redman when the latter is better and has a far superior discography. Also hate seeing Scarface/Chuck D face off in the first round when both should be in the final four.

Can't believe LL Cool J also missed the cut, though. The disrespect shown towards the 80s in message boards is out of control. So much for "real hip-hop fans".
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Wow at Scarface, Black Thought & 3000 being trash. Especially Scarface.

I agree on Prodigy, Snoop & Busta btw.

But let me get this straight. You think guys like Scarface, Andre 3000 & Black Thought are trash but guys like Immortal Technique & Redman aren't?

Who in your opinion are the "more deserving" rappers that should've been voted in?
Yet you don't agree on Dr.Dre? The guy who had Snoop write his whole first album and Eminem on his second? Funny that Big Pun is being overlooked by DMX when he shits all over him lyrically. Some of the names being overlooked is unreal.

"wow" Wow what? Andre 3000 sings and is lame. He's hardly a RAPPER, Big Boy is more the rapper than him and quite frankly he's more talented. People think Andre is so awsome because he's in movies. Big deal. People aren't judging on TALENT but merely mainstream appeal. Kanye as one of the best? Give me a break. Scarface isn't that great, he's nothing special.Black Thought, who cares? Seems like people put more stock into shit that shouldn't matter.

There are plenty of names that should be ahead over most guys there it just depends onw hat you're looking for. In terms of pure old school where's Run DMC,Eric B,Kool G Rap,Slick Rick,Guru?

When it comes to pure talent and or meaning behind tracks Vinny Paz,Celph Titled,R.A. The Rugged Man,Ill Bill ,Copywrite,Sabac Red,Apathy....etc

I'm not a fan of Immortal Technique... In fact I hate the guy but I respect what he does and what he raps about he isn't afraid to say what he wants.

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You know NOTHING about rap. Have you ever even listened to Black Thought rap? Do you even know who he is? That's like THE most technically proficient cat out there. Even if you're not a fan, nobody with ANY lue about rapping would ever fix their lips to call him trash.

Get a clue.

I ain't even going to bother correcting the other wrong shit.
Woah, I know nothing about rap?Or is it Hiphop? I've heard everyone on that list, and there are plenty of names that deserve to be there. Its an extremely underwhelming list, some made it beacuse they're dead and others made it because they were on tv.Hardly something they should get credit for. If you want old school where is Run DMC? If you want TALENT where's Vinny Paz,R.A. The Rugged Man , or Celph titled? If you want meaningful songs with talent wheres Sabac Red,Copywrite,Revolution of the Mind.... and thats just "underground" guys who deserve to be on this list over most of those names. If you think Black Thought is technically proficient then you haven't heard much

But ya Kanye is one of the greatest of all time...and I! Don't know hiphop . Big L,Big Pun,Talib being overlooked is a JOKE.

Like I said, this list is a joke and there are plenty more deserving
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I've already stated before that I don't agree with Dr. Dre making it on the list.

LOL at Andre 3K barely being a rapper because he sings, Andre is one of the most consistent rappers to this day. Hardly does Andre ever have a bad verse, and yes he's a better rapper than Big Boi.

I don't think Kanye should be in the top 10, but if I'm picking 32 of the greatest rappers ever yes I would include Kanye, that's just my personal opinion.

Also LOL at you thinking people only voted Scarface & Andre 3000 because they've been in movies, if that's case then why didn't Will Smith make it? The reason they made is they're both great rappers, as well as Black Thought. You don't think guys like Scarface, Andre 3000 & Black Thought deserve to be on the list but the typical elitist hip-hop underground favorites like Immortal Technique, Vinny Paz & R.A. the Rugged Man should be?
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There are plenty of names that should be ahead over most guys there it just depends onw hat you're looking for. In terms of pure old school where's Run DMC,Eric B,Kool G Rap,Slick Rick,Guru?

Ya they're trash but since they were on tv you clowns think they're so awesome!
Scarface was on TV? I didn't know about that. The reason I think highly of him is because he's undoubtedly the greatest gangsta rapper along with Ice Cube and the greatest rapper to come from the south. He's made classic upon classic albums, been part of the one of the greatest groups in Geto Boys, has longevity, amazing storytelling abilities, laid the foundation for "mafioso rap" (a style Kool G Rap mastered later) and more that I wont bother pointing out since that was enough to prove he's fully deserving of being in the list over no names like Copywrite.

And any credibility you had was destroyed the moment you mentioned Eric B. Need I remind you that he was NOT a rapper? Hell, some people are not even sure if he produced the albums with Rakim and you are out here mentioning him because it somehow makes you look cool and "knowledgeable". And rarely you'll find a bigger Run DMC fan than me but face it, they are NOT worthy of a "greatest rapper list". For one, they were a GROUP and like the Beastie Boys, only worked to perfection as one. Neither Run nor DMC have anything to boast about when it comes to solo careers or at least solo performing. Their rapping style was pretty much them rapping together every verse, not to mention, despite making classic music, their rhyme schemes were basic as fuck and would never land them in a "greatest rappers" list as standalone acts. Now as a group... Run DMC is at least in the top 5!

I think Guru, Slick Rick and Kool G Rap deserved to be in the list, specially over trash like Kanye but that's a different story.

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I don't think Kanye should be in the top 10, but if I'm picking 32 of the greatest rappers ever yes I would include Kanye, that's just my personal opinion.
I wouldn't put Kanye in the top 50 and maybe not even top 100. He's an AWFUL rapper and he's lucky to have the production skills he does. Otherwise his albums would have all been dreadful garbage. One of the most unbearable rappers I've ever listened to by far. And that voice makes me wanna strangle him.
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