[Combat Analyst]

Originally Posted by Choke2Death

Scarface has never had a beef with anyone in rap except Lil Troy. And that's some personal shit between them that goes back to the 80s before Face had even made it in the game. Don't know if it's squashed yet. I wish I could know what started it because Face's first ever record was distributed by Troy.

My point exactly.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by LBGetBack

If you're frequently clashing with rappers that are actually threats, you're going to take an L though.

Ross wasn't/isn't a threat though. 50 took an L because he pulled out all the stops to end his career and it failed. People don't think Ross is "real" now but it doesn't matter, as much as I dislike him he just sold 218k week one, a gold album, and is more relevant than 50 is right now in music and has been for 3 years now. Street King Immortal has no hype besides white people in the suburbs or on twitter, fucking Meek Mill has more buzz. Would be really shocked if he does 150k week one

[A$AP]

Originally Posted by Ether

Ross wasn't/isn't a threat though. 50 took an L because he pulled out all the stops to end his career and it failed. People don't think Ross is "real" now but it doesn't matter, as much as I dislike him he just sold 218k week one, a gold album, and is more relevant than 50 is right now in music and has been for 3 years now. Street King Immortal has no hype besides white people in the suburbs or on twitter, fucking Meek Mill has more buzz. Would be really shocked if he does 150k week one

50 had the upper hand in so many beefs that he got comfortable and thought he could "end his career" with a couple of his youtube vids and disses and shit. The usual stuff. Shit like that works, if you're relevant. Which he wasn't. When the Ross beef started he had already fallen off pretty much. He just didn't realize it until he took an L to one of the fakest dudes in the game.

50's biggest flaw of all has to be not adapting to the rap game and pretty much refusing to work with anyone else. Only when it's too damn late is he trying to collaborate with other artists like Wiz. Him rising up again is just unlikely at this point. He doesn't have his Dre/Em safety net anymore.

In short, he's completely out of touch with today's Hip Hop fans.

[Ether]

http://hiphop365.com/?p=17827

[Notorious]

You weren't here then but earlier this year in the old hip-hop thread there were guys seriously arguing with me and LB that Kreyshawn was more popular than Nas and Nas couldn't sell more than her

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Notorious

You weren't here then but earlier this year in the old hip-hop thread there were guys seriously arguing with me and LB that Kreyshawn was more popular than Nas and Nas couldn't sell more than her

what a joke, no idea how people thought she'd do anything based off one hot single that was released a year ago. 550k twitter followers? Ok, Diddy has 8 million something and Chris Brown has like 11 million, how'd their albums do?

[Notorious]

Chris Brown has over 11 million twitter followers and sold 100k in the first week

[Combat Analyst]

Originally Posted by Ether

what a joke, no idea how people thought she'd do anything based off one hot single that was released a year ago. 550k twitter followers? Ok, Diddy has 8 million something and Chris Brown has like 11 million, how'd their albums do?

Yeah Gucci Gucci was her only hit song.

[Stinger Fan]

Originally Posted by Rocky Mark

this and FUCKING this

Eminem never dissed a high profile lyrical rapper , all the people he dissed were either pop artists or rappers who aren't underground (like Will Smith or Nick Cannon)


you could make an argument for Cannibus, but i'd love to see Ice Cube or Kurrupt or Common or DMX in a beef with Em, can't see him holding his own against them

Eminem didn't need to because no one wanted to fuck with Eminem. Why else do you think so many people took his side in beefs? lol A lot of dudes flat out refuse to beef with him, they say it in interviews.

Eminem didn't need to diss any top guy because they wanted to work with him, he was just a troll thats what he was about. He trolled people before it became popular. Honestly no one has started beefs except for irrelevant guys like Benzino and Ja Rule(remember he dissed his daughter). Eminem is known for out doing people on their own tracks when he does a feature , he just has a lot of respect I say

[Notorious]

Eminem admitted in one of his songs that he made a diss song about Lil Wayne around the time Wayne really started to blow up, like around 2007-08, but he never released the song because he said Wayne would've destroyed him.