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Old 10-14-2012, 09:09 AM   #661 (permalink)
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Snoop has been going down hill since 2001, his last great album was the Doggfather imo

it's a shame what he's doing to his legacy..
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:13 AM   #662 (permalink)
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Snoop Dogg is only good when he works with Dr. Dre or the Neptunes.
Wrong. And Battlecat, and Daz, and JellyRoll, and....

hell, he sounded real good on those DJ Premier tracks off of Paid the Cost to be the Boss.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:49 AM   #663 (permalink)
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I was just saying it for argument's sake, and I honestly believe Em is great but massively overrated when it comes to his disses, maybe i'm wrong, but I don't imagine Em could hold his own against those said (i'd add Nas to the list too)

dissing Benzino or Mariah Carry doesn't make it a credible streak
I think it's all positioning. Em ethered non threats like Benzino or feuded with jokes like ICP, the industry saw him lyrically destroy every rapper he beefed with but never considered who Em was beefing with.

He essentially built up a strong rep for himself without doing anything worthy to gain that rep. I'm not dissing him, Slim is one of my favorites, I just don't think he's this guy who could lyrically destroy any emcee.
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I think it's all positioning. Em ethered non threats like Benzino or feuded with jokes like ICP, the industry saw him lyrically destroy every rapper he beefed with but never considered who Em was beefing with.

He essentially built up a strong rep for himself without doing anything worthy to gain that rep. I'm not dissing him, Slim is one of my favorites, I just don't think he's this guy who could lyrically destroy any emcee.
exactly

I think that honour goes to Ice Cube, his track record shows how brutal he is when it comes to ripping artists ..I mean NWA, Cypress Hill, MC Hammer , etc

LL Cool J, Nas, DMX, Kurrupt, Common

maybe you could add 50 to that list (well he was brutal during his feuds with Ja, Ross, Joe, and Game)
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exactly

I think that honour goes to Ice Cube, his track record shows how brutal he is when it comes to ripping artists ..I mean NWA, Cypress Hill, MC Hammer , etc

LL Cool J, Nas, DMX, Kurrupt, Common

maybe you could add 50 to that list (well he was brutal during his feuds with Ja, Ross, Joe, and Game)
50 took an L vs Ross
Cube took an L from Common and maybe Cypress Hill (I remember on the Beef DVD it was thought that Cypress Hill won)
Cool J took an L vs Canibus depending on how you look at it
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50 took an L vs Ross
Cube took an L from Common and maybe Cypress Hill (I remember on the Beef DVD it was thought that Cypress Hill won)
Cool J took an L vs Canibus depending on how you look at it
If you're frequently clashing with rappers that are actually threats, you're going to take an L though.
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LL Cool J verbally took an L against Kool Moe Dee. Sure, he ended up winning from a commercial standpoint as his album sold double-platinum while Kool Moe Dee went into obscurity but if you have heard "Let's Go" from KMD (the most underrated diss EVER) you'd know what I'm saying.

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I think rappers need to listen to Scarface, Unless you're ready to die, don't start a rap beef.
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I think rappers need to listen to Scarface, Unless you're ready to die, don't start a rap beef.
Scarface has never had a beef with anyone in rap except Lil Troy. And that's some personal shit between them that goes back to the 80s before Face had even made it in the game. Don't know if it's squashed yet. I wish I could know what started it because Face's first ever record was distributed by Troy.

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LL Cool J verbally took an L against Kool Moe Dee. Sure, he ended up winning from a commercial standpoint as his album sold double-platinum while Kool Moe Dee went into obscurity but if you have heard "Let's Go" from KMD (the most underrated diss EVER) you'd know what I'm saying.


LL got at him good too on Jack the Ripper and To The Break of Dawn. I mean they both had strong, lyrically solid disses, and some good material to get at the other with. I think who you see as the winner kind've depends on which rapper you like better in that one.
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