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Old 10-02-2012, 04:43 PM   #381 (permalink)
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Have you heard Friday Night Lights by J. Cole? His best work by far IMO, if you haven't, you should check it out.

As far as Returnof4Eva goes, it was a good mixtape but I prefer K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (His best IMO) and 4EvaNADay over it.
I haven't heard FNL, but I probably should check that out. Also haven't heard Krit Wuz Here, but I don't know if it can surpass ReturnOf4Eva. One thing's for sure, Krit can produce.
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Yeah K.R.I.T. produces all of his music, Cole produces most of his too.
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Yeah K.R.I.T. produces all of his music, Cole produces most of his too.
I like that too. Shows that you're not just here to make a few hits and fuck a couple broads. Actually knowing and understanding the music you're creating and taking a deeper interest in the process. That's one of the reasons why I can get behind those two the way I have.
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Question:

Do some rappers have their songs playing in the background when they perform in concert to avoid forgetting?
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Yeah but the good isn't represented as well as the bad is today like it was in the 90s.

I always bring this up when this discussion is had.......Common made "I Used to Love H.E.R." back in 1994 for a reason!

And a few of the groups that are celebrated on here now as "real rap"(Onyx especially, Das EFX) were the cats Common was going at on that song.
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I'm slightly nervous for Kendrick's debut. LIke, I really want it to be dope and I think it will be......but a few things worry me. The Lady Gaga feature and Dr. Dre.

Really, Dre's an annoying figure these days and needs to go sit his ass down and get out the way. He doesn't produce, he just keeps hopping on the songs struggling to keep up with rapping the verses that soneone else obviously wrote and recorded a reference verse for, shilling his headphones 24/7. What's he bringing to the table? Why's he keep hopping on the songs and why's his name gotta be attached when he really ain't doing shit?
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Anyway, something random. But I would love to know what the definition of "real rap" is. I hate when people use that term, it's so stupid. Nothing more than a stupid term made up of rap's dumbest fanbase, the elitists.
For me, "real rap" is something that stays true to the culture's roots or is innovative in some way and lastly, just music good for my ears. A song like "Sucker MCs" by RUN DMC is real hip-hop whereas I don't even want to call Lil Wayne's "Lollipop" hip-hop.

And on the discussion of Will Smith, I think he's awesome. Some people whine about fake rappers that pretend to be thugs but then they turn around and diss him because he's "not street". And even as a non-ghetto style rapper, I think what Will raps about is fine and not overly corny. Fictional comedy-horror stories like "Nightmare on My Street", plain classic jams like "Brand New Funk", "Summertime" or just fun music like "You Saw My Blinkers"... he's good even for pop standards. Not a corny love-singer which is a good thing.

And when I listen to the "bad music" from the 90s and 80s, I still think it's fine compared to today's low standards. 2 Live Crew may have set the standard for low class hip-hop that many copy today but I find their music highly enjoyable, particularly their 80s stuff. Then there's straight up pop rappers like MC Hammer who I don't like or anything but can listen to without wanting to break stuff like I would with today's autotuned bullshit music. Hell, "You Can't Touch This" is a classic! Even "Ice Ice Baby" is listenable because it has that nice old school flavor to it. And I didn't even grow in that era, so it's not a matter of age.
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J cole spits fire on that a star is born track with jay z.
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I'm slightly nervous for Kendrick's debut. LIke, I really want it to be dope and I think it will be......but a few things worry me. The Lady Gaga feature and Dr. Dre.

Really, Dre's an annoying figure these days and needs to go sit his ass down and get out the way. He doesn't produce, he just keeps hopping on the songs struggling to keep up with rapping the verses that soneone else obviously wrote and recorded a reference verse for, shilling his headphones 24/7. What's he bringing to the table? Why's he keep hopping on the songs and why's his name gotta be attached when he really ain't doing shit?
He needs the Lady Gaga feature to appeal to mainstream fans.

I don't see the album selling well honestly.
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Well the underground fans are to blame for the reason there being no real hip-hop. When guys like J.Cole, Wale, etc. were underground and no-names they had large fanbases, Now when they went mainstreams fans started to turn on them. No underground guy is going to go mainstream if their fans turn on them for doing it.
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