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Old 12-28-2012, 09:10 PM   #2291 (permalink)
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Scarface is excellent. Him, Jay-Z and Beanie Sigel are one of my favorite combinations in hip-hop.



Also, 2Pac is definitely not as widely known/respected as The Beatles on a worldwide scale. Not even close. And this is from a guy that can't stand The Beatles.

Kanye MURDERED that beat. I know I've posted about this before, but between "Guess Who's Back", "In Cold Blood", and that BEAT SWITCH on Heaven(Kanye did the 2nd beat), he absolutely murked that album. Classic album, great performance by Scarface, and Kanye.....you don't even know how excited I was about him back then, that was right as he was making a name for himself and breaking through in 2002.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:15 PM   #2292 (permalink)
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The Fix is one of my absolute favorite albums of all time. I usually get the gasface when I say I like it better than The Diary, but I just can't deny it.
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The Fix is my favorite 'Face album as well. A bunch of bangers on there. Guess Who's Back, Heaven, My Block, What Can I Do, I Ain't the One, In Cold Blood, Keep Me Down, just to name a few.
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Good choice. His first three albums are absolute fire and so is the rest of his catalog for that matter. Also give Geto Boys a try. His group and they are also great.
Will definitely listen to him more in 2013.
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Rap music sales for 2012, the top 30......

NICKI MINAJ - Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded : 758,678
KENDRICK LAMAR - Good Kid, m.A.A.d City : 505,910
RICK ROSS - God Forgives, I Don't : 482,000
2 CHAINZ - Based On A T.R.U. Story : 439,096
G.O.O.D. MUSIC - Cruel Summer : 389,000
NAS - Life Is Good: 341,000
TYGA - Careless World : Rise of the Last King : 321,000
MEEK MILL - Dreams And Nightmares : 273,605
MAYBACH MUSIC GROUP - Self Made Vol. 2 : 255,018
B.O.B. - Strange Clouds : 248,150
FUTURE - Pluto : 230,250
PROJECT X - Original Soundtrack : 206,393
WIZ KHALIFA - O.N.I.F.C. : 182,169
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - The Heist : 176,244
LECRAE - Gravity : 157,045
LUPE FIASCO - Food & Liquor II: The Great American Rap Album Pt. 1 : 154,482
COLT FORD - Declaration Of Independence : 126,533
MACHINE GUN KELLY - Lace Up : 109,748
ODD FUTURE - OF Tape Vol. 2 : 105,495
SLAUGHTERHOUSE - Welcome To: Our House : 97,532
WAKA FLOCKA FLAME - Triple F Life : 96,698
BIG K.R.I.T. - Live From The Underground : 96,505
DJ KHALED - Kiss The Ring : 90,877
THE GAME - Jesus Piece : 86,589
INSANE CLOWN POSSE - The Mighty Death Pop! : 75,596
CURREN$Y - The Stoned Immaculate : 75,227
E-40 - The Block Brochure: Welcome to the Soil 1-2-3 : 73,087
CHIDDY BANG - Breakfast : 71,940
TRIP LEE - Good Life : 70,416
DIGGY - Unexpected Arrival : 64,245

A few thoughts.....1. Rap music sales(and really music sales) are SO down now, it's crazy. Anyone who is old enough to remember the 90's and early 2000's has to shake their heads after seeing this. nobody goes platinum now? Nobody goes gold? Only like 20 acts even top 100K? Wow. The SCRUB acts used to break 100k.

2. Kendrick....#2 album of the year. Big ups. Glad to see quality music selling, that doesn't happen alot. Many doubted his buzz was legit, but it was. I'm glad to see that quality music can still sell based on word of mouth. NOBODY would've predicted a year ago, that kendrick would outsell Ross, Kanye's compilation, etc.

3. On the other end of the spectrum, I gotta give Nicki props. Not for her album because it sucks, but the fact that she can have the # 1 rap (kind've) album even though it sucks! I remember when she was first getting a buzz with mixtapes and guest appearances, so there's no sarcasm in my props. I'm glad she's eating at this level because she did work her way up and she CAN rap. If she ever makes a good album, I'll cop. I'm interested to see what her next move is....she got that pop crowd on her side. Will she cater to them, or will she bring them into her world? Do the right thing, Nicki!
Yeah, it was great that Kendrick Lamar's album sold more than even I think it would. Props to him for going gold, (although I predict it possibly would go platinum in the next couple of months). Nicki has her widespread fanbase of course, but I think she will cross over to the dark side and cater to the pop enthusiasts. Only last rapper that I believe can legit go platinum is Eminem (even Wayne/Drake, IIRC), and what I've been hearing from him lately is pretty half-baked compared to his older work.
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Wayne, Jay, Kanye and Drake all went platinum in 2011. I think Nicki's first album that came out in 2011 went platinum as well.

But yeah Eminem, Wayne, Jay, Kanye, Drake, Nicki...right now those look to be the only artists in the rap industry that are capable of going platinum.
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The Fix is one of my absolute favorite albums of all time. I usually get the gasface when I say I like it better than The Diary, but I just can't deny it.

Same here. I can't say I always liked it better, but now? It's just a lot more of a mature album than the Diary, so I enjoy it more now. I can't often listen to a ton of that "gangsta" shit all in one listen, unless I'm in the right mood. The Fix hits closer to home these days.

As an aside, I've love thought "The Untouchable" was a bit overlooked. It did well at the time, but doesn't get mentioned much now. Really good, consistent album.
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nice to see the piece of shit that is nicki minaj have #1 album of the year. what a joke
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Very sad state of affairs.
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Is that really surprising? Did you really think the likes of Kendrick, Ross, Nas, Wiz or Lupe would out-sell her?

Even though her music is shit, popularity wise, she's on another level compared to those guys in the mainstream world aka people who buy albums. Her fanbase is just much bigger than theirs.
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