[HeatWave]

Originally Posted by LBGetBack

Right from the horse's mouth, this was a 2007 interview.

HHDX: At Kanye’s recent listening party he mentioned that a certain artist from Little Brother was basically the one that pushed him to be that dude. Now you two have worked together in the past but he failed to mention you by name. First – How does it feel to know that you are Kanye’s inspiration and second – Why do you think he didn’t mention your name??
Phonte: Well, I’ve known I was Kanye’s inspiration since back in 2003 when we did a few shows together. He told me that he read my verse from ‘The Yo-Yo’ in the Source and got scared that we were gonna beat him to the punch. …As for him not mentioning me by name, I thought it was kinda bitchmade because he personally knows who I am. If you’re gonna give me props, give me my props. Otherwise it just comes across as a backhanded compliment: ‘Yeah, I’m a big fan of what’s-that-guy’s-name…’ That’s some ho shit, in my opinion.
As for the props themselves, that’s cool and all…but if you’re really a fan and Little Brother’s music inspires you so much, why not reach out to us to make some more music together? Why would you not wanna make history with the younger cats in the game who helped to create a lane for you? But we all know the answer to that question…”

Phonte later shitted on 808's and called singing with autotune the whole album an "act of cowardice" for not actually using his own voice.

Ah ok..thx for the clarification...Phonte does have a point though

Phonte also said something about turning down Drake's offer to work with him on his album as well right?

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

When I first joined here I had a Big L ava. I still believe Big L is the greatest lyricist of all time and could of gone on to even bigger and better things. Some of his lines, especially in his freestyles, were so good. I do like Scarface, Ghostface Killah and Pun but I still prefer Big L to them.

Big L is the punchline king, but his lines look pretty poor when put up against the three you just mentioned, and some others. I probably wouldn't have L in my top 10.

[Cookie Monster]

Originally Posted by LBGetBack

LOL.

What you laughing at?

[Cookie Monster]

Originally Posted by Ether

Big L is the punchline king, but his lines look pretty poor when put up against the three you just mentioned, and some others. I probably wouldn't have L in my top 10.

Thats why there is a Hip Hop Discussion thread, for opinions across the world. I'd have L in my top 10. Along with three I mentioned.

[LBGetBack]

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

What you laughing at?

Big L being the best lyricist of all time. That's funny to me.

I liked L, but damn with the retroactive love he gets on the internet. It's nuts.

[Notorious]

I do agree that Runaway was too long but Blame Game is only 8 minutes long because of the Chris Rock skit at the end, takeaway the Chris Rock skit and it's a 5 minute song. As far as the beats being overproduced, I didn't have a problem with them, that's just Kanye's style nowadays. From hearing MBDTF, Cruel Summer, Watch the Throne and G.O.O.D. Friday's, I've just come to accept that as Kanye's new style of beats.

I've replayed MBDTF multiple times. It's a dope album. I feel like you're nitpicking a little bit.

[Cookie Monster]

Originally Posted by LBGetBack

Big L being the best lyricist of all time. That's funny to me.

I liked L, but damn with the retroactive love he gets on the internet. It's nuts.

Fair enough. Opinions and all that mate, it's understandable.

Whats your feelings on Kool Keith?

[Ether]

The problem with having people like L and Pun in a top 10 to me is their lack of albums due to their untimely death. Biggie had two, but those are regarded as some of the best albums in hip hop history. Pun has two, but nobody ever talks about Yeah Baby. L only released one album when he was alive, and Lifestylez sounds dated to me to be honest. I can't put L and Pun above Nas, Jay, Scarface, Ghostface, etc when they released multiple classic solo albums and L and Pun only released one at best.

[LBGetBack]

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

Fair enough. Opinions and all that mate, it's understandable.

Whats your feelings on Kool Keith?

One thing that rubs me the wrong way with the Big L love is that most giving him this love have never even heard the great music out of the DITC crew....Show and AG, OC, Diamond D, etc. It's just "OMG Big L would've been so great, he would've had Jay-z spot because of that freestyle and Lifestylez is my favorite album, OMG! What the fuck is Stunts, Blunts, and Hip Hop?"

Kool Keith....he weird. I like Ultramagnetic MC's old school stuff, but that's where I checked out on him.

[LBGetBack]

Originally Posted by Ether

The problem with having people like L and Pun in a top 10 to me is their lack of albums due to their untimely death. Biggie had two, but those are regarded as some of the best albums in hip hop history. Pun has two, but nobody ever talks about Yeah Baby. L only released one album when he was alive, and Lifestylez sounds dated to me to be honest. I can't put L and Pun above Nas, Jay, Scarface, Ghostface, etc when they released multiple classic solo albums and L and Pun only released one at best.

Not to mention, nobody put them above those cats when they were alive. NOBODY.