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My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is arguably Kanye's best album though. Well, it's either that or Graduation.

What happened between Little Brother & Kanye? Wasn't Phonte pissed because Kanye stole their style and got famous off of it or something like that? I might have Kanye confused with another rapper.

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I'm actually with the hipsters that College Dropout & Late Registration are his two best albums, Late Registration is my favorite. So many dope features on that as well. Cam'ron & Consequence on Gone, Nas on We Major, Lupe on Touch the Sky, Jay Z on the Diamonds remix. Same with College Dropout, GLC & Consequence on Spaceship, Jay Z and J.Ivy on Never Let Me Down, Mos on Two Words, I really can't say any albums after had a great feature verse (besides Nicki on Monster). Graduation is a great album, but Drunk & Hot Girls can be considered filler and Big Brother is just a lame song. 808s, I'm in the minority that I love the album but it's my 3rd favorite Kanye album. And as I said many times, MBDTF it just feels like he tried too hard and tried to make a point after all the critics thought he was done after 808s.

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When I first joined here I had a Big L ava. I still believe Big L is the greatest lyricist of all time and could of gone on to even bigger and better things. Some of his lines, especially in his freestyles, were so good. I do like Scarface, Ghostface Killah and Pun but I still prefer Big L to them.
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My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is arguably Kanye's best album though. Well, it's either that or Graduation.

What happened between Little Brother & Kanye? Wasn't Phonte pissed because Kanye stole their style and got famous off of it or something like that? I might have Kanye confused with another rapper.
Phonte was mad because when Kanye was around them, he "admittedly" picked up there sound and style and used it for his albums and always gave them props and such but only around them..When he did 106 or MTV or something, he'd always play it off as if he created that style or something and they felt slighted by him for that..
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I'm actually with the hipsters that College Dropout & Late Registration are his two best albums, Late Registration is my favorite. So many dope features on that as well. Cam'ron & Consequence on Gone, Nas on We Major, Lupe on Touch the Sky, Jay Z on the Diamonds remix. Same with College Dropout, GLC & Consequence on Spaceship, Jay Z and J.Ivy on Never Let Me Down, Mos on Two Words, I really can't say any albums after had a great feature verse (besides Nicki on Monster). Graduation is a great album, but Drunk & Hot Girls can be considered filler and Big Brother is just a lame song. 808s, I'm in the minority that I love the album but it's my 3rd favorite Kanye album. And as I said many times, MBDTF it just feels like he tried too hard and tried to make a point after all the critics thought he was done after 808s.
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1. Graduation
2. MBDTF
3. Late Registration
4. College Dropout
5. 808's

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Crazy part is, everything after Graduation is what has many mainstream ppl calling him one of the greatest..Kanye may have the biggest discrepancy catalog following ever..
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Phonte was mad because when Kanye was around them, he "admittedly" picked up there sound and style and used it for his albums and always gave them props and such but only around them..When he did 106 or MTV or something, he'd always play it off as if he created that style or something and they felt slighted by him for that..
Right from the horse's mouth, this was a 2007 interview.

HHDX: At Kanye’s recent listening party he mentioned that a certain artist from Little Brother was basically the one that pushed him to be that dude. Now you two have worked together in the past but he failed to mention you by name. First – How does it feel to know that you are Kanye’s inspiration and second – Why do you think he didn’t mention your name??
Phonte: Well, I’ve known I was Kanye’s inspiration since back in 2003 when we did a few shows together. He told me that he read my verse from ‘The Yo-Yo’ in the Source and got scared that we were gonna beat him to the punch. …As for him not mentioning me by name, I thought it was kinda bitchmade because he personally knows who I am. If you’re gonna give me props, give me my props. Otherwise it just comes across as a backhanded compliment: ‘Yeah, I’m a big fan of what’s-that-guy’s-name…’ That’s some ho shit, in my opinion.
As for the props themselves, that’s cool and all…but if you’re really a fan and Little Brother’s music inspires you so much, why not reach out to us to make some more music together? Why would you not wanna make history with the younger cats in the game who helped to create a lane for you? But we all know the answer to that question…”


Phonte later shitted on 808's and called singing with autotune the whole album an "act of cowardice" for not actually using his own voice.
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1. LR
2. CD
3. 808s
4. Graduation
5. MBDTF

MBDTF isn't a bad album but I have some issues with it:
- Why is Runaway 9 minutes long?
- Why is Blame Game 8 minutes long?
- Why is Rick Ross on Monster? He spit barely 4 bars
- 5000 hours writing Power? I call bullshit

It felt very, very overproduced to me and it has no replay value imo.

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When I first joined here I had a Big L ava. I still believe Big L is the greatest lyricist of all time and could of gone on to even bigger and better things. Some of his lines, especially in his freestyles, were so good. I do like Scarface, Ghostface Killah and Pun but I still prefer Big L to them.
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1. LR
2. CD
3. 808s
4. Graduation
5. MBDTF

MBDTF isn't a bad album but I have some issues with it:
- Why is Runaway 9 minutes long?
- Why is Blame Game 8 minutes long?
- Why is Rick Ross on Monster? He spit barely 4 bars
- 5000 hours writing Power? I call bullshit

It felt very, very overproduced to me and it has no replay value imo.
I'll cosign the lack of replay value. I can't remember the last time I played it. It's a clear #4 to me, with 808's the clear #5.

1. LR
2. CD
3. Graduation
4. MBDTF
5. 808's
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