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Old 10-31-2012, 10:25 AM   #1311 (permalink)
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Lil Wayne is the most overhated muthafucka in hip-hop. How can he be the sole reason for hip-hop's direction when he's not even the biggest rapper around right now?
Not the biggest rapper around? He's one of the few artists (not just rappers) who can sell a million albums in a week. He's in almost every song on the radio whether as the main artist or in a guest appearance.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:35 AM   #1312 (permalink)
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We're in a new transition phase. I see Wayne falling into irrelevancy in the next couple years. It's already happened to guys like T.I.

07/08 Wayne took out the Aftermath reign which lasted since The Eminem Show. 50 fell into obscurity. Em made the worst album he's ever made. Dre is making mediocre beats. Same shit will happen to anyone on Young Money who isn't Drake or Nicki.
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Hip-Hop as a whole isn't doing too well in comparison to other genres. People always use Drake as the standard for success these days but just how successful is he? I mean commercially, is he really as big of a player as everybody likes to make it seem?

The only real powerhouses left in Hip Hop are Jay/Kanye and Young Money.
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Not the biggest rapper around? He's one of the few artists (not just rappers) who can sell a million albums in a week. He's in almost every song on the radio whether as the main artist or in a guest appearance.
Compared to Jay, Em, or hell, even Kanye these days? Nah, he ain't the biggest. Those C4 sales are shady. Wayne already lost everyone's attention.
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For the record, his album outsold J. Cole's debut, God Forgives I Don't, as well as Cruel Summer. So happy for Kendrick, man.
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Lil Wayne is the most overhated muthafucka in hip-hop. How can he be the sole reason for hip-hop's direction when he's not even the biggest rapper around right now?
Wayne is the biggest artist in Hip-Hop, To the majority of the casuals who who only listen to the radio, he's the best rapper alive, because he's the only rapper alive and one of the few who can sell a million albums in a week.

Wayne isn't even close to falling into irrelevancy, He's always going to be a fan favorite with the mainstream.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:38 PM   #1317 (permalink)
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So apparently Cube stole rhymes from Cypress Hill/B-Real or had them write for him or some shit? My brother's sitting here trying to tell me and I'm not finding any evidence to support that. Cube's always wrote his own material. He practically wrote Straight Outta Compton.

Finally, FINALLY got to listening to GKMC and my God is this album good. Kendrick delivers on every single track without fail effortlessly displaying his range as an artist. From slow jams like Poetic Justice to hard knocking, heart pounding tracks like m.A.A.d. city and Backseat Freestyle to storytelling narratives like The Art Of Peer Pressure to introspective records like the intro and Swimming Pools. GKMC combines new school with old school sounds while keeping it fresh, original, and most importantly WEST COAST. Kendrick never loses touch with his west coast background and keeps that mid 90s Death Row type sound with the perfect example of this being "good kid". K.Dot's storytelling ability, lyrical talent, mic presence, versatility, flow, intensity, and passion are all in top form and shouldn't be forgotten amongst the top notch production quality throughout the entire album. This album is an absolute instant classic and given 10 years to marinate I'm sure we'll all put it in our top albums of all time and quite possibly top 10. It's THAT good. It's only drawback being "Sing About Me, I'm Dying Of Thirst" simply because of it's length and it can sometimes drag, but even Ice Cube would put out 10 minute tracks and just like Cube Kendrick makes it work in the end.

An absolute must have for any hip hop head and just any plain fan of good music. You will NOT be disappointed and may even be tempted to buy both versions (regular and extended) just for the hell of it. 10/10, 5 mics, XXL, whatever. Fantastic album.

My track order:

#1. m.A.A.d city
#2. The Art Of Peer Pressure
#3. Swimming Pools
#4. Intro
#5. Poetic Justice
#6. Backseat Freestyle
#7. good kid
#8. Compton
#9. Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe
#10. Sing About Me, I'm Dying Of Thirst
#11. Money Trees
#12. Real

But don't let the ratings fool you into thinking there are any bad songs on this album. There aren't.
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Wayne is the biggest artist in Hip-Hop, To the majority of the casuals who who only listen to the radio, he's the best rapper alive, because he's the only rapper alive and one of the few who can sell a million albums in a week.

Wayne isn't even close to falling into irrelevancy, He's always going to be a fan favorite with the mainstream.
Sure, he's big, and is always gonna have an audience, but he's far from Jay or Em. I'm tempted to say even Drake n Kanye have both overtaken him at this point.

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So apparently Cube stole rhymes from Cypress Hill/B-Real or had them write for him or some shit? My brother's sitting here trying to tell me and I'm not finding any evidence to support that. Cube's always wrote his own material. He practically wrote Straight Outta Compton.
Chyea, Cube wrote the most widely-remembered verses on that track lol. That's prolly comin from some shit B-Real said during the Cypress Hill vs Westside Connection beef. I don't buy it, dude spent his whole time in NWA writin rhymes for everyone but MC Ren, he doesn't need anybody writing for him.

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Em n Dre?
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So apparently Cube stole rhymes from Cypress Hill/B-Real or had them write for him or some shit? My brother's sitting here trying to tell me and I'm not finding any evidence to support that. Cube's always wrote his own material. He practically wrote Straight Outta Compton.

Finally, FINALLY got to listening to GKMC and my God is this album good. Kendrick delivers on every single track without fail effortlessly displaying his range as an artist. From slow jams like Poetic Justice to hard knocking, heart pounding tracks like m.A.A.d. city and Backstreet Freestyle to storytelling narratives like The Art Of Peer Pressure to introspective records like the intro and Swimming Pools. GKMC combines new school with old school sounds while keeping it fresh, original, and most importantly WEST COAST. Kendrick never loses touch with his west coast background and keeps that mid 90s Death Row type sound with the perfect example of this being "good kid". K.Dot's storytelling ability, lyrical talent, mic presence, versatility, flow, intensity, and passion are all in top form and shouldn't be forgotten amongst the top notch production quality throughout the entire album. This album is an absolute instant classic and given 10 years to marinate I'm sure we'll all put it in our top albums of all time and quite possibly top 10. It's THAT good. It's only drawback being "Sing About Me, I'm Dying Of Thirst" simply because of it's length and it can sometimes drag, but even Ice Cube would put out 10 minute tracks and just like Cube Kendrick makes it work in the end.

An absolute must have for any hip hop head and just any plain fan of good music. You will NOT be disappointed and may even be tempted to buy both versions (regular and extended) just for the hell of it. 10/10, 5 mics, XXL, whatever. Fantastic album.

My track order:

#1. m.A.A.d city
#2. The Art Of Peer Pressure
#3. Swimming Pools
#4. Intro
#5. Poetic Justice
#6. Backseat Freestyle
#7. good kid
#8. Compton
#9. Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe
#10. Sing About Me, I'm Dying Of Thirst
#11. Money Trees
#12. Real

But don't let the ratings fool you into thinking there are any bad songs on this album. There aren't.
Yeah, i can listen to every song on that album without a problem. My faves are madd city, backseat freestyle, and poetic justice.
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Sure, he's big, and is always gonna have an audience, but he's far from Jay or Em. I'm tempted to say even Drake n Kanye have both overtaken him at this point.



Chyea, Cube wrote the most widely-remembered verses on that track lol. That's prolly comin from some shit B-Real said during the Cypress Hill vs Westside Connection beef. I don't buy it, dude spent his whole time in NWA writin rhymes for everyone but MC Ren, he doesn't need anybody writing for him.



Em n Dre?
I was referring to collective duos/groups but yeah Em is definitely there too. Those Stans he has are almost comparable to Taylor Swift fans the way they line up to buy his CD's lol.

Dre is another story. Musically, he's irrelevant. A Dre production on an album doesn't even mean what it used to. He's killed his own buzz musically to the point where even if Detox dropped I doubt it would do better than Kendricks right now.

He's done it all and he's covered financially so why would he anyways? If he announced his retirement after 2001 it would have been alot smoother than dropping failed singles and lying to people for 12 years lol.
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