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Old 08-31-2012, 09:34 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Damn, when i remember the NWA, Cypress Hill, etc. and then i see Drakes, Chris Browns, Gucci Mane, Wanker Flakah and other worthless pieces of shit that pass off as rap... fuck this world

This = rap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31FO_4d9TY

This = shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Q4s_ZdvAQ
Maybe what you fail to realize is it is 2 different types of rap. Guys like NWA, Cypress Hill and Run DMC were originally hip hop, that was more defining of a culture and often made music with a message. The common, most successful form of hip hop/rap now has a mix of pop with it, which is what gets radio play and potential for concerts and big record deals, since this is what most people rap for. And Chris Brown technically isn't a rapper.

Point is, the first guys you mentioned are responsible for the current state of hip hop/rap by cosigning and affiliating themselves with the current top stars. Lyrically, none of those rappers you first mention will be widely regarded as GOATS, neither will the latter.

But, when you take guys like Nas, a true lyricist, you still have records like "Owe Me", "Nastradamus" & "Oochie Wally". Reason for that is the old school style of hip hop isn't in high demand. People want club based records or something that sounds good in a car. It's all about being commercial and marketable. I'd take the last 15 years of hip hop/rap over any other time period, I don't want to hear depressing music about the struggle, I want the upbeat, party records. The songs that showcase the good life and can be used as a form of motivation.
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Old 09-01-2012, 01:19 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Reason for that is the old school style of hip hop isn't in high demand. People want club based records or something that sounds good in a car. It's all about being commercial and marketable.
That's the biggest problem.

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I don't want to hear depressing music about the struggle, I want the upbeat, party records.
That's another one.
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That's the biggest problem.



That's another one.
Actually, it's not a problem that fans want this.


The problem is, rappers who normally represented the original hip hop style, felt the need to capitalize on what's hot, instead of staying true to their self. In the process, they don't get the same response as somebody like Rick Ross would get but alienate their original fanbase, who are always under the impression that when a rapper makes a commercial/party record, he sucks.


Rappers still rap about the struggle, it's still a market for that. But in this day and time, a record like Grove St. Party will receive more airplay than a record like Express Yourself would today and thats because it's more marketable.


The big problem is fans are too one dimensional. Guys like Nas get all the respect in the world but if he was to try something new and start collaborating with guys like Waka, Future and 2 Chainz, fans will call him a sell out and completely shit on him because they are not open to change. Record labels don't make money off artists like Dead Prez or Talib Kweli because the fanbase now, isn't the same fanbase of 20 years ago. Honestly, your average music listener isn't as intelligent to listen to artists like that and completely understand it. Rappers now have to dumb down lyrics in order to remain relevant and make money these days. Thats why 2 Chainz has one of the top albums of the summer and Waka Flocka is in high demand, while guys like Talib Kweli, Canibus or Ras Kass won't be as successful and labels won't be as quick to sign them, they lack the crossover ability.

It's all about money but there is no problem with hip hop, as there is something for everybody. People allow themselves to partake in those party records just to complain, it's all a choice. Times are different, more middle class teenagers are hip hop fans and take a liking to guys like Drake or Meek Mill because it's simple rhymes and sounds good. Not everybody can listen to an typical song about the struggle and really feel it, especially if they have no idea what the struggle really is. And even with that, the bling bling rap and the trap music, it's all becoming redundant.
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Default Re: Why do so many people hate Justin Bieber?

I can't say I hate the guy, because I don't know him. However, what does irritate me is a guy like that who makes soulless music can have so much money. I love music, and a lot of people who make great music struggle in comparison and then to see a guy get so ridiculously successful on the back of a marketable look and ridiculously fake sounding songs doesn't sit particularly well with me. He doesn't help himself by having a bit of a spoiled brat feel to him (backed up by Marg Helgenberger).
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:48 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I dont hate him because everyone else does, I just dislike his music. I could care less about him or anything to do with him, I am nto someone who wishes death upon people like some of the extreme haters do, if you dont like him dont listen or buy any of his material.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:56 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Didn't hate him until the recently with the comments about Prince William (not a royal lover but still uncalled for), hanging up on that guy after he got bested in a verbal joust during an interview and one video I saw of him read a bad tweet about himself and looking all butthurt while other celebrities shrugged or laughed ir off. Kind of comes across like a little punk to me.
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I like his music very much, I love to listen Justine's songs.
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Default Re: Why do so many people hate Justin Bieber?

It's clearly the jealousy and pubescent teenage boys who are jealous that every single girl under 16 wants his D. His music has improved greatly and are not bad actually. I did think he looked like a major fag back in 2010 with his girl voice and shit haircut.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:35 AM   #69 (permalink)
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He is a Corporate puppet just like the Backstreet Boys, N'Sync and many others. He is an untalented douchebag. He is going to blow his money like MC Hammer or one of those child stars, and he'll probably end up on some VH1 show in 2030 called the "Auto-tune era" or something. Eh, I can't stand the douchebag, such a turd.
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He is a Corporate puppet just like the Backstreet Boys, N'Sync and many others. He is an untalented douchebag. He is going to blow his money like MC Hammer or one of those child stars, and he'll probably end up on some VH1 show in 2030 called the "Auto-tune era" or something. Eh, I can't stand the douchebag, such a turd.
I doubt that he'll squander his money because his parents have an eye on him.

Besides the MC Hammer story is an extreme example. Anyone who has a Diamond album and a small degree of sense has no business going broke.
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