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I just listened to two of those - You Belong To Me and Scratchin Me Up and I'll admit it is decent. Probably better than some tracks Kells released in the same lane as this like that Untitled album. Better than Trey's "Neighbors Know My Name" too lol.


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Isn't Kelly's latest album supposed to be good? The one with a "When a Woman Loves" and etc.?

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So many kids these days (I'm not that old so I don't know why I say kids but anyway), many in my generation, don't appreciation real melody, harmony, soulful connection to the storytelling within a song, and play old build. They want hard hitting beats and what I call that manufactured sound that is over-produced and autotuned. If that's their music preference they choose then goody for them. I just keep listening to the classics. Maybe it's because I grew up on this stuff and stayed with it more than the new R&B (rapping & beats) my peers listen too. I honestly can't tell you a Trey Songz or any of those other guy's songs that I like. That "Adorn" Miguel song we talked about earlier is decent.
I don't necessarily think that the R&B genre is "dying", per se, but I believe it's decline is a product of two things:

1.) There is a demand for crossover appeal. Instead of sticking to one genre, you now have a multitude of artists trying to experiment and clash together characteristics of certain genres into one. Contemporary R&B has started to embrace elements of the ever-so-popular electronic genre, which has been "the" genre for the past few years now. Which brings me to my next point.

2.) It is in a transition. R&B has enjoyed decades of mainstream success up until recently, and I believe that it's just a natural cycle. What's hot now will not be hot in 20 years.

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No doubt. Like that bullshit that Usher makes now? And lots of others music sounds just like it......I'm stunned there's actually people alive who like that shit. People been trying to talk about "hip hop is dead" for a decade, but it's R&B that's been in much worse shape......because it's "relevant" artists all abandoned it or turned it into something real gay sounding.
I never found Usher to be that great of a musician to begin with. He's a fabulous performer, but his discography is a mixed bag. I definitely prefer listening to his singles rather than a whole album.


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Excellent points TehJerichoFan! Many of these artists are basically just doing what's hot right now for the coins. I understand they are handling their business in doing that, it's just a shame as a fan who looks for something more artistically. Soul and R&B music in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s evolved creatively and culturally as the stars continued to build legacies and new artists emerged but I feel there was an undeniable quality to song-writing, using instruments, and vocals. Today in a lot of the music scene I feel the beats and electronic tricks in many of these songs are taking the place of emotion & soul that use to be there.

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Isn't Kelly's latest album supposed to be good? The one with a "When a Woman Loves" and etc.?
I like about three songs off that album so that would be a no for me. It's almost like an homage to 70s soul album which isn't a bad thing but for whatever reason I wasn't fully into the groove of it. Really dig the song "Green Light" (I posted it in here like a month or two ago) because it totally songs like an Isley Brothers hit down to Ron's signature "oohs".


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I never found Usher to be that great of a musician to begin with. He's a fabulous performer, but his discography is a mixed bag. I definitely prefer listening to his singles rather than a whole album.
Agrred, though he had some great singles on My Way and 8701. Confessions too, though I didn't enjoy those as much as the previous two albums.

But U Don't Have to Call was heat! Love that song. U Got it Bad, My Way, Nice and Slow(heat!), Burn, even Can U Get Wit It way back when he first came out.

He was never one of my favorites, but I had rspect for him and recognized what he could do. His shit is trash now. That europop shit is so corny that all these cats be on. Makes me want to punch them in the face just for breathing, straight up.
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I don't necessarily think that the R&B genre is "dying", per se, but I believe it's decline is a product of two things:

1.) There is a demand for crossover appeal. Instead of sticking to one genre, you now have a multitude of artists trying to experiment and clash together characteristics of certain genres into one. Contemporary R&B has started to embrace elements of the ever-so-popular electronic genre, which has been "the" genre for the past few years now. Which brings me to my next point.

2.) It is in a transition. R&B has enjoyed decades of mainstream success up until recently, and I believe that it's just a natural cycle. What's hot now will not be hot in 20 years.



I never found Usher to be that great of a musician to begin with. He's a fabulous performer, but his discography is a mixed bag. I definitely prefer listening to his singles rather than a whole album.


It kind of irritates me how the likes of Usher, Beyonce, Rihanna, Chris Brown, and Ne-Yo, have all transitioned into making those techno-pop club songs.
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I'm all for experimenting musically so long as the finishing product is good. If done right, it can add more depth and versatility into their discograhy. In most cases, though, many artists are abandoning their "home" genre and crossing over into other genres, because that's where the money is at. Rihanna and Chris Brown in particular have always followed the latest trends. I've never been a fan of Rihanna as an artist because of how manufactured and processed she is.

I have to disagree with you on Beyonce. She has stayed pretty loyal to contemporary R&B ever since her Destiny's Child days. Her latest album contains some of her best work to date (Love on Top, Party, and Run the World (Girls) are some of my favorites). I can't wait for her forthcoming album.

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Agrred, though he had some great singles on My Way and 8701. Confessions too, though I didn't enjoy those as much as the previous two albums.

But U Don't Have to Call was heat! Love that song. U Got it Bad, My Way, Nice and Slow(heat!), Burn, even Can U Get Wit It way back when he first came out.

He was never one of my favorites, but I had rspect for him and recognized what he could do. His shit is trash now. That europop shit is so corny that all these cats be on. Makes me want to punch them in the face just for breathing, straight up.
Oh definitely. His older works triumphs his new material in every way. It's a toss-up between Raymond v. Raymond and Looking 4 Myself, though I'm leaning toward the latter because the singles were better in Raymond.

As far as the last sentence, I wouldn't say that. LOL, I can appreciate some electropop, dubstep, and the like so long as it's not generic. I'll never understand how producers like Dr. Luke and Sandy Vee have become so popular.

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Speaking of Beyonce, she put it in all the critics faces yesterday at the SuperBowl press conference. She came out and sang the National Anthem acapella then laughed "Any questions?" I laughed my ass off!


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I had to give it to her on that one. She shut down her critics and disproved any critiques questioning her vocal abilities.

I still don't understand why they made such a big fuss over her lip-syncing at the inauguration. You'd think that journalists would have something better to do that to pounce on Beyonce like some starving feral cats.

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Usher used to make good music. During his My Way, 8701, Confessions days. His music now is terrible but I still enjoy his music from back then. My top 3 in no particular order would be U Don't Have to Call, Nice & Slow and Bad Girl.

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