Listening to the new Cloudkicker. So far I'm sorely disappointed. I hear some post rock and Deftones, even Tool in its progressions but it caries with it a high degree of "heard that before" and "too neat and symmetrical to be interesting".
Haha yeah, I used to watch Scribble and WRC tapes with friends all the time a few years back, got into Grind Time when it was good, now mostly watch the leagues you mentioned. Fliptop looks like the shit but I don't understand a word of it ha.
It's also the reason I tell people that those look like Tom Cruise mom's shoes