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Old 07-29-2006, 02:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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In high school I was big into hip hop. Listened to it all day everyday, kept up on all the new rappers, watched BET and MTV religiously but around 2002 I realized how much it has changed. How it has slowly become more about style than substance. Every song I hear some almost sounds the same as the others and the really good rappers get overshadowed by the modern day amos and andys. I still listen to Eminem, Nas, Common, Talib, Kanye,DMX, Jay Z and a few other but the majority of rap is garbage. Its only popular because middle class white america loves it
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Old 07-29-2006, 03:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't really like rap that much. I have nothing against it and I know that rapping is not an easy thing to do, but it's not really my thing.

I think Eminem is pretty good though. When I heard Lose Yourself I was dumbfounded by how awesome it was. He should do more stuff like that instead of crap like ass like that.
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What? I've heard of him quite a bit, and not just on here. He's even been on Chappelle's Show. That's not exactly what I'd call independent.
I didn't say he was fully independant, and remember I live in Aus and down here, literally no-one's heard of Talib.
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^ See, even this old guy who's been around the block so many times he's got it mesmorized on the back of his hand can't remember it.

Guess what Raj, it's almost 7, isn't that pensioners bedtime?

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^ See, even this old guy who's been around the block so many times he's got it mesmorized on the back of his hand can't remember it.

Guess what Raj, it's almost 7, isn't that pensioners bedtime?

You're doing what with the what now?

Funny thing is I'd consider M&M to be rap, but I know shit about rap/hip-hop so my opinion doesn't count.
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^ See, even this old guy who's been around the block so many times he's got it mesmorized on the back of his hand can't remember it.

Guess what Raj, it's almost 7, isn't that pensioners bedtime?

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Hip Hop is not dead Rap is dead we don't have any real rappers left. Just look at the recent hit records that have been put out everyone talks about the same thing like all they ever do is party or shine the hardest. What happened to MC's that spit about real sh!t going on in their life like Nas, Beans or Pac. Half of this wack music that is getting play right now is coming from the south with dudes like D4L and Yung Joc getting rotation. You can put out anything right now and it will sale for example Laffy Taffy which is one of the dumbest songs I have ever heard.

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Holt summed it up, it's style over substance. Which is why big tracks by people like Kanye are the order of the day, and club and RnB joints are in, pushing real skills and real issues to the back.

Mmm, shame on me for sleeping on a real rapper. I'll get a listen to some of Cham's mixtape stuff.

Cam'Ron was never on Jay-Z level, though. He's better off dissing people he can actually beat, not trying to get the attention of the new owner of Def Jam. If Jay did actually reply, Cam's career would be good as dead anyway, so good.

Chingy, I never could stand. He has the pop touch from Jermaine Dupri, which gives him some good hits (Right Thurr, Holidae Inn...yer I liked that 1 ) but as a rapper he's the same as most others you can name from the substance-starrrrrved Dirty Duuuurty right now.

Diddy is the 50 Cent of the previous era, but with better songs- G-Unit doesn't have a Biggie, an actual quality rapper who has the same star power as the rest. Diddy had loads of quality songs on Bad Boy- Flava In Ya Ear remix, Whoa, um, a few more I should really be able to remember (go back to both Biggie's albums for further proof). Right now, he's into other projects, hip-hop isn't his main thing. I'm told Unforgivable's pretty good

Ja's awful. Nuff said. He tried rapping, he couldn't do that. Tried singing, that was worse. Then he trieed going at 50 and Eminem, which kiled his career. He's a bad Pac imitator who focuses on the RnB dollar.

Wayne's okay. The entire Cash Money roster can produce great songs, they're probably the best thing out of the south right now...mind you they've split now. So yeah.

Fabolous, I never liked either. Just a pop rapper, really. Breathe was alright, but Just Blaze could pull a hit out of his arse.

Chris Brown's a bad Jacko imitator it shows that RnB's in the same decline as hip hop is- the same old subject matter. Run It was alright, but Scott Storch, etc, etc.

Both D4L and DFB are killing hip hop. Snap Music is the worst music around right now, like a watered down Crunk with the worst lyrics ever. Complete bollocks, really.

Difference between Ice Cube and Snoop is, Ice Cube's lost his passion for making good music. You can go on about his last album, but the fact that he had to go to Scott Storch and Lil Jon for most of it wasn't the most original thing in the world. Nobody ever expects Snoop to come up with a 5 star classic, so he's always trying to prove someone wrong. A better MC than most people think, IMO.

Budden's a legend, and if his second album ever comes out I'll definitely get it. He is underrated, and his first LP was excellent apart from the crap RnB tracks, I thought. Since then he's been limited to mixtapes by Def Jam, but hopefully now Jay's around things'll change.

Pharrell can't rap. He can be an excellent producer when he doesn't try to go all avant-garde but thats about it.

Can't believe I forgot Xzibit. One of my favourites since I got into rap, before he hooked up with Dre he was dropping topics of a conscious nature without being lumped into that category, showing much versatility. Now, he's lost it a bit, but his first two albums were stunning. Look forward to his next.

MC Ren, I don't think I've heard any of solo. Been wanting to for a while though, he was excellent- Probably lacked creativity but in a group with Eazy and Dre as rappers, eh?

Kweli is okay, his best days are behind him though. And Pyro, Kweli hasn't had a massive club song which has propelled him to chart success yet, so he can still be considered 'independent'. The man himself would probably be proud of it, for some reason.

Yeah, hip hop is becoming something based largely around soulless club joints and MCs who once loved the culture going for the RnB dollar like everybody else. But half the industry still hates this state of mind, it's pretty obviously not as if all hip hop cleanly fits the stereotype of 'gangstas' and every other one you've ever thought of...

If you're stuck for something to check out (which you're not), do so...

The Coup- Funk-infused political hip hop which always gets compared to Outkast, but is better. Speaking of which, anyone heard anything of their next album? (apart from the mighty O)

Sage Francis- Independent, Alternative and gasp, white, but the man is an absolute legend. If anyone's heard Simon Says by Pharoahe Monche, he parodies it...and hip hop...in style here:http://youtube.com/watch?v=UiSZ26grU...fe%20is%20easy

Plan B- If you're from the UK, you've heard NME fans going into hyperbole because it's-shock horror- a rapper with a guitar. But surprise, he's actually an incredible rapper who loves hip hop and yeah, gets a lot of comparisons to early Eminem.

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And real rappers ain't ones that spit about their lives...Pac is the most overrated MC ever, period. Beans is alright but still overrated. We need someone to spread a message. We need rappers to spread a message of real hip hop, a positive message unlike the stuff that's getting rotation today.
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i stopped listening to Hip-Hop. They don't make classic songs anymore and I got tired of them dudes talking about the same shit. I don't know what the hell is goign on in the Hip-Hop world right now.Only people I keep tabs on is Kanye West and my boy Jay-Z(he's always been my fav.)
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