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Old 04-14-2013, 06:35 PM   #1511 (permalink)
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So most of the women on the TV show make up the scum team in The Walking Dead Game? Normally you value women in these types of worlds but the show has taught me differently. Now a game based on the comic would be different as women don't have a 50% chance of being scum based off their gender.
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:37 PM   #1512 (permalink)
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I know, but then that kind of defeats the purpose of having the show be the flavor for the game. I mean, in a game like Walking Dead, there are main members of the group who I could justify as having as fake claims, but as a general thing, it can be annoying.

Who knows. Maybe I'll keep it and see what I can do with the theme.
See I don't get that. If you don't make some of the main people fake claims it will be harder for scum to fake claim and make people town too easily.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:30 PM   #1513 (permalink)
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Scum would definitely win, though.
Nightless is mafia sided actually? I mean think about it, for every time you lynch correctly then town have another lynch + no way to kill the stronger players.

Even ignoring that - certain players are easy to read. If you get 2-3 strong town reads mafia can't kill them so they'll eventually get POE'd down.
10-2 nightless with no roles is strongly town sided. 8:4 is about right, for that ratio.

Having main character as safeclaims doesn't defeat the concept anymore than having minor characters? It's a mafia game first and foremost, after all.

Actually a kind of cool mini would be popcorn mafia. 11 players. Yes it's a mini, but it'd be cool if you could get it with 11 active players who didn't hate the set-up. Mostly because the concept is interesting. It's probably town sided, even with the high % of scum.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:43 PM   #1514 (permalink)
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Nightless is mafia sided actually? I mean think about it, for every time you lynch correctly then town have another lynch + no way to kill the stronger players.

Even ignoring that - certain players are easy to read. If you get 2-3 strong town reads mafia can't kill them so they'll eventually get POE'd down.
10-2 nightless with no roles is strongly town sided. 8:4 is about right, for that ratio.

Having main character as safeclaims doesn't defeat the concept anymore than having minor characters? It's a mafia game first and foremost, after all.

Actually a kind of cool mini would be popcorn mafia. 11 players. Yes it's a mini, but it'd be cool if you could get it with 11 active players who didn't hate the set-up. Mostly because the concept is interesting. It's probably town sided, even with the high % of scum.
I read it over, is this even a standard mafia game? I didn't get any indication that there were votes or anything. If that's the case I don't understand it. If Mafia outnumber town then they win... But why? The whole point in mafia winning when they outnumber town is because nothing would stop mafia from winning so the host ends it. In this it's just an arbitrary rule. If things were allowed to just play out win on their own without the host ending it town would win every time since the last town player would just kill all the mafia players.

Aside from that it might work. There would be a lot of WIFOM depending on who played. Mostly about mafia's selection for who gets to make the kill.


As for fake claiming main characters it's a constant issue. I prefer themes were there are all of these characters out there that HAVE to be town. My game that I'm working on, Indy Wrestling Mafia, has a ton of characters that I can use or give as fake claims.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:01 PM   #1515 (permalink)
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Nightless is mafia sided actually? I mean think about it, for every time you lynch correctly then town have another lynch + no way to kill the stronger players.

Even ignoring that - certain players are easy to read. If you get 2-3 strong town reads mafia can't kill them so they'll eventually get POE'd down.
10-2 nightless with no roles is strongly town sided. 8:4 is about right, for that ratio.

Having main character as safeclaims doesn't defeat the concept anymore than having minor characters? It's a mafia game first and foremost, after all.

Actually a kind of cool mini would be popcorn mafia. 11 players. Yes it's a mini, but it'd be cool if you could get it with 11 active players who didn't hate the set-up. Mostly because the concept is interesting. It's probably town sided, even with the high % of scum.
The first two lynches would be a shitshow with nothing to go off of since nobody knows who is or isn't scum.

With no characters or roles, I'm confident that at the very least, it would come down to a 2-1 MYLO showdown.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:02 PM   #1516 (permalink)
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See I don't get that. If you don't make some of the main people fake claims it will be harder for scum to fake claim and make people town too easily.
Yeah, you have to. But it happens too frequently, and you do want to give characters appropriate flavor. But how weird would a President's Mafia game have been where George Washington and Abe Lincoln were fake claims?
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Actually a kind of cool mini would be popcorn mafia. 11 players. Yes it's a mini, but it'd be cool if you could get it with 11 active players who didn't hate the set-up. Mostly because the concept is interesting. It's probably town sided, even with the high % of scum.
That sounds pretty badass, tbh.

I'd play.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:08 PM   #1518 (permalink)
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Yeah, you have to. But it happens too frequently, and you do want to give characters appropriate flavor. But how weird would a President's Mafia game have been where George Washington and Abe Lincoln were fake claims?
Hmm you say that but I would hate having things that obvious. No I have made sure all the characters in my game fit as well as possible with their roles.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:13 PM   #1519 (permalink)
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lol @ repet talking about a vanilla mafia mini when that was what was happening for about 6 months. Minis are awful, inactive, and usually poor games, not worth it.
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I read it over, is this even a standard mafia game? I didn't get any indication that there were votes or anything. If that's the case I don't understand it. If Mafia outnumber town then they win... But why? The whole point in mafia winning when they outnumber town is because nothing would stop mafia from winning so the host ends it. In this it's just an arbitrary rule. If things were allowed to just play out win on their own without the host ending it town would win every time since the last town player would just kill all the mafia players.
Well because they can't win any other way? Mafia cannot kill - thus they can never completely eliminate the town without that mechanic. There's nothing wrong with arbitrary rules? Mafia has a bunch of them, this is just a chance in mechanics as opposed to adding weird role stuff.
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